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Republicans shut out of stimulus conference negotiations

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Little-Acorn, Feb 11, 2009.

  1. Little-Acorn

    Little-Acorn Well-Known Member

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    "Change we can believe in". Uh-huh.

    Someone should have told Congress that that's the new way of operating in Washington. Apparently they didn't get the memo.

    When, oh when will Republicans learn what happens every time they trust Democrat promises to "be nice"?

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    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30667

    Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    by Connie Hair
    02/11/2009

    Republicans have caught the Democrats in a midnight “stimulus” power play that seeks to cut Republican conferees out of the House-Senate negotiations to resolve a final version of the Obama “stimulus” package. Staff members from the offices of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Ca.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) met last night to put together the “stimulus” conference report.

    They intend to attempt to shove this $1.3 trillion spending bill through in the dead of the night without Republican input so floor action can take place in both chambers on Thursday.

    I spoke with House Republican Conference Chairman Mike Pence (R-Ind.) moments ago about this latest version of Democratic “bipartisanship.” Pence told me, “I think the American people deserve to know that legislation that would comprise an amount equal to the entire discretionary budget of the United States of America is being crafted without a single House Republican in the room.”


    How many Senate RINOs will go along with this? Probably, just enough for the Dems to get away with it.
     
  2. Dr.Who

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    The less repub involvement the better. All the blame can go squarely to Obama.
     
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    Obama won by almost 10 million votes, the Democrats control both chambers of Congress by large margins...the public want him and the Democrats in charge.

    The GOP had very little constructive input, the less involvement they have in any bill the better for the country..What a few disgruntled Republicans think about it is irrelevant.
     
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    I am glad the republicans are not taking part in this bill

    BUT

    Didn't obama say he was the only one who could bring the two camps together. And that he would bring the two camps together.

    This is just another example of the facts

    He is a liar

    and

    he said what ever it took reguardless of if it was true to get elected

    he is not change he is not progress

    he is just another liberal who was able to fool the masses
     
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    Deny all responsibility and blame the other guy for all the countries problems. That's sure to make things better.
     
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    If the dems want to strong arm then they can take all the responsibility.

    Fannie and Freddie were allowed to continue due to dems like Barney Frank and he won't even admit he was part of the housing problem.

    Even Barrack Obama took money from Fannie and Freddie and he won't take responsibility either.

    I wouldn't talk about taking responsiblity
     
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    Yes sir, now that blame is properly placed, things are sure to get better.
     
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    It should not be surprising that Republicans were kept out of Conference negotiations. Republicans would have done the same thing had the roles been reversed. It is just how it works.
     
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    Does not seem to stop Obama's talk of "I inherited this."

    This is all irrelevant as you say, I agree, however can anyone point to any stimulus ever that actually worked? Why is this one different?
     
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    takes 2 to tango ladies...
     
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    Denying all responsibility when it is shared is a problem. Blameing the other guy when he is not to blame is a problem. But in this case the other guy would be totally responsible and to blame.
     
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    Can you name a time when pubs were in control of the house, the senate, the presidency, the courts, and the media and then they felt that they not only needed to control the process but to completely shut out the very voice of the opposition?

    No you can't.

    Mayby you can just name a few times when they tried to stifle the very voice of the democrats?
     
  13. Dr.Who

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    This one is a crisis that one cannot fail to take advantage of. (paraphrase of Rahm Immanuel) If this one were used to advance "imperialism" it would be a crime but used to advance the kind of statism we call socialism well then it is good and it is fine to advance good with evil means. Sarcasm.
     
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    Real ID... The Patriot Act to an extent. Republicans being shut out of the Conference does not mean they had no say in the legislation. In the Senate they could have made changes, or made changes in Committee. Obviously the majority party is going to have the most say, that is simply how Congress works.
     
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    i am not talking about the regular aspects of how congress works.

    I am talking about not even bringing a bill to committee at all or not even inviting the opposing party committee members to be in session.

    When the minority party can't even see the bill before the day of the vote they can't even make a comment on it for the nation to hear. Is that the way things should be run.

    The democratic party used to be the party of championing free speech. Today they wish to stifle it in multiple ways.

    Liberals on college campuses shut out conservative speech regularly.

    Liberals have a huge majority of the main stream media, public radio, as well as all media in general. Yet the leadership actually favors the so called "fairness doctrine."

    Say something politically incorrect and it is the liberals who throw a fit and try to shut down the speech instead of making a counterpoint.

    We expect liberals to be the champion of this cause and somehow they have become the enemies of it. And not out of some desperation caused by being in minority but because they have the power.
     
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