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Republicans: The Country Should/Can Be Run Like A Business

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Mr. Shaman, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    If that's a fact, how did they manage to appoint a C-student, who failed at every business he ran??

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    yep, and those same deadbeats won't move out, which keeps costing the government money.

    Katrina, would not been as bad if people would have headed the warnings and left and not blamed the government that they did not come and get them.

    Most of those same people, had not problem moving around to steal tv's and clothes
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    Because if they left...the houses would not have been destroyed...

    All the whining about the dumb people who stayed thinking they would be fine...ignores that the system still completely failed..and the response to help even those who was poor , slow, and filled with waste....
     
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    Andy Well-Known Member

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    Now here is where you almost got my point of view... almost. I agree completely that it was slow, and filled with waste, and although the system didn't exactly "fail" since help was given, it was poor and pathetic.

    Ok, so it was slow, wasteful, poor and pathetic. You are absolutely correct. It was all that and more. Every good conservative here will agree with those statements.

    Here is where we differ.

    You seem to have the theory that... if only someone else was in the white house, it would have all been better. If only we had a 100% democrat (or green party, or whoever party) it would have all worked out.

    Conservatives see this as an inherent part of government. This is how government always is. It always sucks. It's always slow. It's always wasteful. It doesn't matter who is in office, who's in the senate, who's in the House, government is always consistently horrible at doing anything.

    For example, this article was written by Momocrats, about two Emergency Rooms, one being a government funded public health care facility, and the other being a private pay-for-service facility. The publically funded health care facility was horrible. Long waits, rude personnel, bad service, no privacy, violations of code.

    In disgust, she went to the private clinic. No public funding. No government support. She was treated quickly, and like a valued customer. She had a private room, and they followed all the laws.

    This is how government is. And don't sit there and think it would be any different with different people in government. Remember the 4 firefighters in 2000, burned to death while calling for helicopters to dump water on the blaze? Of course the helicopters were not dispatched... why? Governmental red tape, and the protection of Salmon.

    See all the stuff about money lost in Iraq? How about the money lost by USPS? Or the fraud and violations of law by Fannie Mae? Or the screwup in payments by Social Security? I read recently that Medicare "discovered" several billion dollars in 'missing funds' recently. How does one "lose" or "discover" billions of dollars? Can you name for me, one single governmental agency that his never been slow, wasteful, inept, and incompetent?

    This is why Ronald Reagan had the famous quote "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

    Why? Because government doesn't help! They always screw everything up!

    This is also why conservatives often are flabbergasted by the seemingly insane views by leftist. Here you correctly point out the absolute stupidity of government attempting to do anything... but then you want them to have control of your health care?

    Have you been to the USPS Office lately? 10 different registers line the counter, but only one line open with a guy who obviously couldn't care less if you've waited an hour, and 2 others off in the corner laughing and joking while we sit in line.

    You want the same high quality government control, over your health care?

    In his book, A Personal Odyssey, by Thomas Sowell, he describes how he was working at a government building with dozens of doctors in the place. A guy walking along the sidewalk outside, collapsed with chest pains. They rushed him in, but found out he was not a member of the military. Instead of treating him, they called for an Ambulance, strapped him up, and sent him to another hospital. Of course he was dead before he made it there.

    This is how government works. Now, do you at least understand our point of view?
     
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