Saxon has arrived!!

[Saxon]

He was pointing out his favorite leaders.

ACHTUNG FRAULEIN... UBER CONSERVATIVE!

Let all of you remember this video when you are upon your knees, on a little rug, five times a day, bowing like a madman to Allah after the Muslims have conquered your land. Remember how you made fun of such people who wished for White people not to mingle with other groups.

 

[Bob the Builder]

Neglected to add:

The fact is that most of the founders recognized the abomination that was slavery, and the main reason that it was not abolished with the founding of our nation was the fact that by that time, slavery was directly or indirectly responsible for, depending on whose numbers one chooses to use, between 30% and 50% of the GDP of our fledgling nation, and there was no easy way to abolish it without bankrupting the country at it's most vulnerable time.

 

[Bob the Builder]

Let all of you remember this video when you are upon your knees, on a little rug, five times a day, bowing like a madman to Allah after the Muslims have conquered your land. Remember how you made fun of such people who wished for White people not to mingle with other groups.

After reading this drek, you remind me of the ignorant, uneducated, mouth-breathing, inbred, sorry white TRASH that I grew up seeing and hearing, and it SICKENS ME. People (and I use that term extremely loosely) like you are all big and bad in large groups, or when you can blather your nonsense anonymously, but one-on-one, you're nothing but gutless wonders who run and hide, or scream "just wait until I get my buddies".

Now run along and hide beneath your bedsheets.

 

[Saxon]

Neglected to add:

The fact is that most of the founders recognized the abomination that was slavery, and the main reason that it was not abolished with the founding of our nation was the fact that by that time, slavery was directly or indirectly responsible for, depending on whose numbers one chooses to use, between 30% and 50% of the GDP of our fledgling nation, and there was no easy way to abolish it without bankrupting the country at it's most vulnerable time.

Hence the hypocrisy. Cash before freedom and equality. Isn't this a typical Jewish quality?

 

[Pandora]

A Canadian that was 'crazy'? He must have either been from our downhill ski team, or he was a recent immigrant from the USA.

I dont know how he got crazy but he was crazy

 

[top gun]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxon
I can guarantee that the Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves at what has happened to their vision, which did NOT include the other races. When they claimed 'all men are created equal', I can GUARANTEE then meant wall WHITE men. After all, I do not recall the Americans freeing the Black slaves immediately after adding that little tidbit about 'equality' into that august document.

Originally Posted by GenSeneca
Where have I seen all this before? Oh yeah... Top Gun spews this same nonsense! Are you guys brothers? Twins maybe?

Hey don't get all mad at me he's your bother in arms! I'm just simply handing out rope to your Conservative compadre there and watching Mr. Uber Conservative hang himself.

I mean the fact that it's documented that Jefferson bedded at least one of his "slaves" and had children by her kinda means they probably TOUCHED!

Take just a second and think about this... seriously.

I know you're not like this whack job. You're an American that believes in democracy. The point I've been making is that it's not fair nor accurate to rant & rave that all Conservatives are like someone that has taken Conservatism to fascist levels...

anymore than it is for others to do the exact same thing in saying... government involvement in regard to a limited and planned short term partial business ownership to help prevent some major business collapses or a government "option" in healthcare is SOCIALISUM.

All that are in favor of these things are just plain old fashion SOCIALISTS... if not commies. Come on... you've seen that talking point around.

This is what we have to move past. We have to stop going to the extremes of rhetoric and look to compromise. Because my friend... the sword cuts both ways.

 

[Saxon]

After reading this drek, you remind me of the ignorant, uneducated, mouth-breathing, inbred, sorry white TRASH that I grew up seeing and hearing, and it SICKENS ME. People (and I use that term extremely loosely) like you are all big and bad in large groups, or when you can blather your nonsense anonymously, but one-on-one, you're nothing but gutless wonders who run and hide, or scream "just wait until I get my buddies".

Now run along and hide beneath your bedsheets.

Ah, the vitriol, the sheer hatred as espoused by a libtard. Nothing makes me smile more than your hypocritical ilk.

 

[Saxon]

Quote:




Hey don't get all mad at me he's your bother in arms! I'm just simply handing out rope to your Conservative compadre there and watching Mr. Uber Conservative hang himself.

I mean the fact that it's documented that Jefferson bedded at least one of his "slaves" and had children by her kinda means they probably TOUCHED!

Take just a second and think about this... seriously.

I know you're not like this whack job. You're an American that believes in democracy. The point I've been making is that it's not fair nor accurate to rant & rave that all Conservatives are like someone that has taken Conservatism to fascist levels...

anymore than it is for others to do the exact same thing in saying... government involvement in regard to a limited and planned short term partial business ownership to help prevent some major business collapses or a government "option" in healthcare is SOCIALISUM.

All that are in favor of these things are just plain old fashion SOCIALISTS... if not commies. Come on... you've seen that talking point around.

This is what we have to move past. We have to stop going to the extremes of rhetoric and look to compromise. Because my friend... the sword cuts both ways.

*ROTFLMAO @ 'whack job'* I am a fascist, therefore I must be a 'whack job'. Gotta love liberal philosophy. Only liberals may be sane, yes?

I am unaware of any documentation that suggests Jefferson bedded a slave, but then again, I am a Canadian who does not fall for liberal propaganda of any kind. You see, whilst you people were busy building your country, my people were too busy owning the world.

I would thus agree with the suggestion that any form of government ownership, even in part, of a business is indeed socialism. This point absolutely cannot be argued upon. However, your suggestion that all those who take part in such schemes are NOT entirely socialist. I should remind you that fascism is the blending of both socialism and fascism, under government authority. That's why fascism is 'authoritarian'. Ironically, just as in the good ol' 'capitalist' USA, fascism espouses full capitalism in order to forward many of their socialist policies. I would add that virtually every nation on earth employs the sam methodology. Ironic that those very same states decry fascism, when they themselves employ the very same policies as those fascist states, with the only difference being the form of leadership itself. You were saying...?

 

[GenSeneca]

Hence the hypocrisy. Cash before freedom and equality.

I've had this conversation before... Oh yeah! With Papa Prog Smurf....

There would have been no union. We would not have become the United States because the southern slave states refused to sign onto the union if the northern states attempted to abolish slavery. But you know all this, you're just using the same talking points the looney left here in the states use.... looking for any reason to denigrate the United States, and its Constitution, as flawed from our nations founding and in need of being completely remade.

"Starting today, we must pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off and begin again the work of remaking America." -- Obama

 

[Bob the Builder]

I've had this conversation before... Oh yeah! With Papa Prog Smurf....

There would have been no union. We would not have become the United States because the southern slave states refused to sign onto the union if the northern states attempted to abolish slavery. But you know all this, you're just using the same talking points the looney left here in the states use.... looking for any reason to denigrate the United States, and its Constitution, as flawed from our nations founding and in need of being completely remade.

A point of order if I may, and if you would feel more comfortable discussing this in another thread, by all means start it and I will be more than happy to discuss it with you.

It wasn't that "the southern slave states refused to sign onto the union", it was because Georgia and South Carolina refused due to the severe economic ramifications if they did, and with Spanish Florida laying just to the south of them, the prospect of them becomeing part of the Spanish territories was unacceptable, especially with British controlled Canada to the north, and the French controlled Louisiana territory to our west, which is why the 3/5ths compromise was included in the Constitution.

Contrary to what some of us were taught in our government schools, the 3/5ths compromise was not emplaced because blacks were considered only 3/5ths of a person, but in response to Georgia and South Carolina refusing to go along with the abolishment of slavery, so it was decided that they would only be allowed to count slaves at 3/5ths toward their census for representation in Congress, in order to 'punish' them for their stiffnecked refusal to abolish slavery. If they wanted to be allowed to fully count the black population of their states towards their census for representation in Congress, they would have to free them. The other southern states, and in particular North Carolina and Virginia were more than willing to abolish slavery, and in fact Thomas Jefferson had worked the vast majority of his adult life towards that very end.

The original 'plan' proposed by Jefferson and others was that the slaves were to be freed, the plantation owners would be compensated out of the federal treasury (5th Amendment compensation), and the former slaves were to be likewise compensated and repatriated to Africa, which eventually happened, after a fashion, with our purchase and establishment of Liberia for former slaves.

Of course, this is merely a very quick gloss, and bears far more discussion by those who are interested in honestly discussing their history, so as I said earlier, another thread would probably be the best place for such a discussion.

 

[top gun]

Let all of you remember this video when you are upon your knees, on a little rug, five times a day, bowing like a madman to Allah after the Muslims have conquered your land. Remember how you made fun of such people who wished for White people not to mingle with other groups.

That's kinda like saying would ya rather be bitten by a rattlesnake or a cobra.
I'll choose neither.

The fact is America is the GREATEST COUNTRY ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH! And the reason it's the greatest is because we have freedom to be real AMERICANS of every race, color and creed.

And try and understand that ANY group of them no matter how different they might seem to you would bond together so quick it would make your Nazi helmet wearing head snap.

So it's fine talk about all the things fascists might think they can do. But BELIEVE ME. When America feels it needs to protect itself you get men & women, rednecks & rappers, bikers & businessmen, White & Black, Christian, Jew, Muslim & Atheist all at your door with a big AMERICAN FLAG on their sleeve looking to kick a$$ and take names.

You may see us fight amongst ourselves from time to time but be advised it's a family fight... AMERICANS are all family.

People who hurt America don't have to ask for whom the bell tolls... for it tolls for thee.

 

[GenSeneca]

*ROTFLMAO @ 'whack job'* I am a fascist, therefore I must be a 'whack job'. Gotta love liberal philosophy. Only liberals may be sane, yes?

I painted Papa Prog Smurf into a corner by pointing out that when challenged, the Progs resort to calling people fascist, racist, bigot, homophobes... I need to add mentally deficient to that list.

You see, whilst you people were busy building your country, my people were too busy owning the world.

Who exactly are 'your people'?

I would thus agree with the suggestion that any form of government ownership, even in part, of a business is indeed socialism. This point absolutely cannot be argued upon. However, your suggestion that all those who take part in such schemes are NOT entirely socialist. I should remind you that fascism is the blending of both socialism and fascism, under government authority.

As much as I with it were not the case, Progs are blissfully ignorant of Capitalism, Socialism and Fascism.

When fascism came onto the scene as a political ideology, it was billed as a "third way", a middle ground between Communism and Capitalism.

In the economic sphere, many fascist leaders have claimed to support a "Third Way" in economic policy, which they believed superior to both the rampant individualism of unrestrained capitalism and the severe control of state communism.

It was very popular, even here in the states where it took root under the Progressive leadership of a Racist Democrat, FDR.

His pride and joy was the new deal... which was praised by Fascist world leaders as America taking its first steps towards becoming a fascist state.

FDR's personal letters reveal that he was impressed by what Mussolini was doing and said that he kept in close touch with that "admirable gentleman." Mussolini himself praised the New Deal as following his own corporate state, as quoted in a July 1933 article in the New York Times, "Your plan for coordination of industry follows precisely our lines of cooperation."

These fascist traditions continue today.

That's why fascism is 'authoritarian'.

Fascism is authoritarian because it seeks to eliminate freedoms, or strictly limit them, so that the population is pigeon-holed into acting in accordance with the goals of the states central planners.

Ironically, just as in the good ol' 'capitalist' USA, fascism espouses full capitalism in order to forward many of their socialist policies. I would add that virtually every nation on earth employs the sam methodology. Ironic that those very same states decry fascism, when they themselves employ the very same policies as those fascist states, with the only difference being the form of leadership itself.

The US operates on a "Mixed Economy" and while only the Capitalist part is ever mentioned (and therefore the only part blamed when the economy goes south), Socialism is precisely what we've been "Mixing" with Capitalism... Which is a fascist economic concept.

 

[GenSeneca]

A point of order if I may, and if you would feel more comfortable discussing this in another thread, by all means start it and I will be more than happy to discuss it with you.

You're preaching to the choir on this one bro... Perhaps it was a butcher job on my part but I was condensing reality so that anyone with a short attention span could follow along.

 

[Bob the Builder]

I painted Papa Prog Smurf into a corner by pointing out that when challenged, the Progs resort to calling people fascist, racist, bigot, homophobes... I need to add mentally deficient to that list.

That one's a dead give away!

Who exactly are 'your people'?

Well, considering that he just said that it was the JOOOOOSSSS who ruled the world, one can only conclude that he's a JOOOOOOOO

As much as I with it were not the case, Progs are blissfully ignorant of Capitalism, Socialism and Fascism.

Did he really just say that Fascism is a combination of Socialism and Fascism?

What a moroon!

 

[Bob the Builder]

You're preaching to the choir on this one bro... Perhaps it was a butcher job on my part but I was condensing reality so that anyone with a short attention span could follow along.

It is rather difficult to condense the nuances of history into a 30 second sound bite so "no harm, no foul". As I said, if you wish to discuss it further, start a thread and I'll be happy to discuss it with you.