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Schwarzenegger orders cuts amid fiscal crisis

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by The Scotsman, Aug 1, 2008.

  1. The Scotsman

    The Scotsman Well-Known Member

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    I'm assuming that Mr. Schwarzenegger and the State Legislators will also be forfeiting their salaries in a show of solidaity with state workers until they come up with a consensus plan that will sort this mess out?

    Culling Government workers Hmmmmm.....always used to be seen as soft option?
     
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    There is no way to cut government spending in a fashion that does not eliminate jobs. Taxpayer dollars have to be administered by someone.

    There simply are no other good options.
     
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    That's a strange thing for a rightie to say! Is the only reason why government in the land of the gun failing because there are too many jobs in government? Certainly the right is going to insist that it is always the main reason but even the most rabid of the right usually doesn't say it's the only reason!

    Making government more efficient with the people you have and cutting wasteful spending could maybe work too don't you think. Learning how to make capitalism work by mixing in social reforms which work for the people is one of the main things that can make US government work as well as other world governments, federal or lower levels.

    We should talk about it sometime when you're not so angry.
     
  4. Sihouette

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    Yes, I hear Ahhhhnold is going after disabled single moms on fixed incomes just to make ends meet! Look out ladies, zeh tarrminator ist aahfta you..

    God forbid if any of them should turn out to be journalists..what terrible PR!

    But seriously, CA is in a mess and germans are so blind when it comes to kneejerk efficiency strategies. They tend to crunch logic in a crises at the expense of longterm strategies that work better. How do I know? I'm german...well mostly..:cool: Know thyself it is said.

    I think they should just continue skimming the lottery to make up deficits in CA. But ahhhnold is probably just stirring up a fuss to get national attention so Uncle Sam will funnel some clams his, uh, I mean California's way...

    In spite of his odd quirks and the fact that he is a republican by name, I still think he has handled his office pretty well...to date..
     
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    Wasteful spending is still spending on someone. You don't really believe money is administered by no one, do you?

    And at any rate, if the government of California (hardly the "land of the gun" -- IIRC, the Brady Campaign gave them an A-) would be able to agree on cutting spending, this sort of maneuver would hardly be necessary.

    BTW - you make gratuitious low blows against others on the basis of their nationality and/or statehood and then accuse them of being overburdened with anger? At any rate, in what way could I have posted the above post in a way that did not seem 'angry' to you?

    I thought Ahnold was an Austrian?
     
  6. GenSeneca

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    You have to agree...

    Failure to agree with the Collective is seen as being antagonistic, close-minded and bigoted.

    He is, thats how he got the nickname "The Austrian Oak".
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    When you say stupid things boy, you are going to be nailed for them. Never mind the longwinded harangue on me, just admit you screwed up again. And if you don't like to be corrected then maybe you shouldn't be doing this. You're really not very good at it anyway are you!

    I make gratuitous low blows against people base on their statehood? What a joke! Maybe I should do it based on their countryhood. LOL
     
  8. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

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    Do you label everyone angry when they make logical arguments?

    Let's think this through real quick... The California government is broke. They have over spent by $15.2 billion. This is known as a "fact".

    There are only two possible ways to clear this $15.2 Billion in missing funds. A: Increase taxes. B: Cut spending.

    You claim the answer is to "mix capitalism with socialism", is that a fair assessment?

    Well, prior to the Governator, becoming the left-wing Republican of California, they had record unemployment and a mass exodus of jobs out of the state, due in large part to taxes. So option "A" would likely cause the economy to drop in California, as well as end the Governators employment since the people of California elected him on the grounds of "no more taxes".

    So we have option "B" left. Cutting spending. Now I find it ironic you advocate mixing in socialism, because um... the over spending... is socialism. It's because of social reforms that CAUSED the $15.2 Billion dollar crisis. So the only option is to end social reforms... by cutting those programs that blow public money on things they can't afford.

    Now you claim they can make government more efficient. I agree, by cutting unneeded government jobs. What would you suggest? Saying they can save money with the people they have, when the people they have is what is costing the money... is just a tab ambiguous. What specifically do you suggest they do?
     
  9. Andy

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    But he didn't say anything stupid, nor did you "nail" anyone on it. Nor was it a 'harangue' on you. If anything he correctly pointed out that his well done post could not possibly have been less "angry" than it was. Stating the facts is just that. Like this:

    You didn't respond to anything he pointed out.

    That's just a fact. I'm not angry about it at all.
     
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