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State verifies Obama's birth certificate

Discussion in 'Elections & Political Parties' started by Popeye, Nov 1, 2008.

  1. Popeye

    Popeye Active Member

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    Well Obama haters, what now? Oh yeah I forgot, he's a secret socialist Muslim terrorist, acts like Hitler and might even be the anti Christ. I've got some advice for all of you..the election is almost here, why not try sticking to the actual issues.

    The state's Department of Health director on Friday released a statement verifying the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama birth certificate
    "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record," DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said.

    "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i," Fukino said


    http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html
     
  2. Frolicking Dinosaurs

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    Now they will try to prove he was adopted by his Indonesian step-father and that forfeited his US citizenship. The US State Department is not on their side on this however. It has been policy for years that minors do not lose their citizenship if adults take action that might forfeit their citizenship unless they affirm the citizenship change as an adult through behavior or renounce their US citizenship.
     
  3. pocketfullofshells

    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    Like these people even care, facts be damned. They will simply keep repeating the lie over and over anyway. if this is McCains base, then god help us all.
     
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    Has anyone who is not connected to the campaign varified this?

    I think its strange that he doesnt just release it but if officials in Hawaii are willing to risk their jobs to vouch for him that is pretty interesting. 4 days before the biggest presidential election and we have a guy saying i can vouch for him rather than him showing it is still wierd but there is really nothing we can do about that. and at least its something.

    I do hope someone can come out and varify this, who is NOT connected to the campaign or Obama personally. Either way I supose it doent matter anymore
     
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    The state has a GOP governor who has been campaigning for McCain-Palin. She appointed the State's director for the Dept. of Health - also a GOP member. Both have verified the record exists there and they are not from Obama's campaign.
     
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    It was said that when Obama went to see his grandmother he asked the Gov to seal his records, she denied he asked. Its all just wierd. Were this McCain I would be just as interested. Actually I kind of wish McCain would be unable to serve so we could get a real conservative in his place :)

    If there is anything fishy about this, there are people who wont stop checking into it even after he is president (should he get the job)

    If there is anything wrong we will eventually find out, for now its to late to know much of anything before the election. I hope we never have an election this stupid again where we have so many unanswered questions about either candidate
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    I knew it would not be enough for you.....
     
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    Haha. I agree with pocket. Nothings going to be enough for you but I don't understand why. Either blind hatred of Obama as an individual or latent racism I suspect.
     
  9. Pandora

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    The racism thing is funny, it seems to be the best thing any of you can seem to come up with when someone dares to not be an Obama follower. But its ok, I feel kind of sorry for you so I don’t mind if you want to call me a racist. Hopefully you feel better about your self each time you try to say something bad about another person. I think it’s meant to work that way.

    Obama put a birth certificate on his web site, Popeye posted it and said now issue closed, that’s it! Over!! I looked at the birth certificate and it did look funny to me. No crease no mark, no signature, and no seal. I said it looks like some one just printed it. Popeye said I was never going to be happy. Later it turned out to have Photoshop watermarks on it.

    Later a different birth certificate was given to FactCheck.Org they verified the birth certificate given to them as real and true and we can trust it, but it was not the same one posted on the website that Obama said as real and true. Then I found out that FactCheck.Org was funded by The Annenberg Foundation Obama was the first Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Division/Project, of the Annenberg Foundation. The direct link was never disclosed by FactCheck, neither was the fact they were verifying a different birth certificate than what was on Obama’s website.

    Now a third verifying has come up, considering the two previous ones AND the fact that Obama refuses to show it BUT has instead been paying attorneys to go to court hearings on 2 separate cases about his birth certificate to stall, delay or throw out the cases instead of just showing the dumb thing.

    But if you would like to call me a racist instead, go for it
     
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    So it's all a big conspiracy.

    Are you calling the Director of Health for the State of Hawaii a liar? Has it really gotten down to that?
     
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    Did anyone verify McCain's birth certificate?

    Come to think of it, were birth certificates even issued way back when he was born? Was it on paper, or parchment? :D
     
  12. Pandora

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    I don’t know Popeye, It could be perfectly true. I have not called him a liar, I just said Ill wait for someone to check it out. I don’t see any harm in giving it a few days for those people who know what they are doing to check out what the Director of Health said, before I say ok sounds good.

    This is by far the best verifier that has come along so far, so it could be the end of the issue, but waiting a few days for those people who know what they are doing to check it out shouldn’t be a big deal.

    Considering the history of this issue it should not be unreasonable to say I will wait a bit to see what comes out about this before I feel like saying I guess its a done deal.

    You know, no one on the obama bandwagon has come out and given a good explanation of why he won’t just release it to the courts. Or why two different ones have been produced for verification on the web. This started over a year ago when astrologers wanted it to do his birth charts and were turned down, two law suites and that 2 birth certificates later we still are reduced to a government official to say I saw it, its real, over!

    Being an Obama supporter why do you think he has sent attorneys to two different court cases to delay the case and ask for a motion to dismiss rather than bring the document? I am sure you believe him so you must have an idea why he would rather pay attorneys to go stall the case and ask to have it thrown out rather than produce the document. What is your theory on that? I am not trying to be mean or snotty; I really do want to know. If you asked to see my birth certificate I could produce it within 5 minutes and I would do it happily.

    So this could be the end of it but I don’t see any harm in holding back on if I will accept this mans verification till someone who knows what they are doing checks it out as they did the other two times.
     
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    Yes they did. In 2000 the issue came up because of where he was born. As soon as it became an issue he produced all the documents. Had he been born even a year earlier he would not be able to run for president, the land he was born on was not in US control even a year before he was born.
     
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    Great point!!!!
     
  15. pocketfullofshells

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    Come on, its NoObama...In order to prove Obama did something wrong...you just need to say it and its true...

    To prove something is not true , or that what we said is correct, you need to have a personal phone call form the Head of the US State Department, and at least 3 Republican members of the Senate , and if the S. Court could rule as well...then maybe just maybe thats enough proof.
     
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