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"Tax Day" Lies

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Mr. Shaman, Apr 16, 2009.

  1. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Some o' these have (no doubt) already shown-up on some Teabaggers placard.

    Here, then, are 10 Republican Tax Day lies:

    (....With The Rest O' The Story, included.)

    :p
     
  2. pocketfullofshells

    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    they don't care, the lies are better sounding, thus more true to them
     
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    Lol. Well, actually charitable giving has taken a BIG dump. What are you losers going to do?

    Tell me something. Do you think "Republican lies" are taking the money out of my pocket? Sorry. Call all the names you want. It doesn't effect the bottom line at all, and THAT'S what infuriates you. I love it.
     
  4. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

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    Both of you are wrong. Crooksandliars is a blog that routinely makes up stuff. In this case the supposed top 10 list of the Tea Party Protest, is completely fabricated.

    Why do you get better sources for once.
     
  5. pocketfullofshells

    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    you mean when the econ went down and no one is spending, they also dont donate as much? shocking.
     
  6. pocketfullofshells

    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    if its made up, disprove it, you know try facts that show its wrong.
     
  7. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Pick one, and....dispute, away!!!

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Aw, jeez.......Skippy ran-off, again.

    Whatta shocker.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Then I guess it's NOT a lie.
     
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    Pocket smokes crack, has sex with farm animals and worships the spaghetti monster as a deity.

    If that's made up, disprove it, try using facts and show its wrong.
     
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    The point being made by the post above is that you are request us to prove a negative. The idiots blog, also known as Crooksandliars, claims these are the top ten tax myths being put out by the Anti-Tax Tea Parties.

    I have searched a dozen Tea Party web sites and found zero, not even one mention of a top ten list. I have found zero evidence of any such list, let alone any fabricated tax lies that the Tea Parties have supposedly been putting out.

    So basically this idiots blog, fabricated a list of supposed tax lies, and then morons on a political forum are saying "prove it doesn't exist!" Ironically the same logic that Catholics used to claim the Earth was flat, or the unpopular theory of Germs being the cause of illness. At the time, there was no way to prove it true... so it was assumed otherwise.

    So we can't prove that no such list exists, therefore that list must be true? That's idiots logic, from the idiots blog.

    Nevertheless I did manage to find a list, not by the Tea Party movement, but rather from Institute for Policy Innovation, in support of the Tea Party.

    The top ten includes...


    Notice how none of them related to the idiots blog of lies? Once again, Shaman, you are literally the least reliable source of information on this forum. Not one single democrat here even comes close. You remain the king of disinformation, and your rule is very secure.

    As for the rest of you... this is another example of why ignorant people shouldn't be allowed to vote. Without knowing any of the facts, you jumped on the idiots blog bandwagon and now look foolish.
     
  12. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

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    Now let's look at the rest of 'Idiots Blog' lies...

    Then notice:

    So 2% of small businesses will have higher taxes. So true or false, Obama is going to raise taxes on small business? Clearly, it is true. But wait there's more...

    That claim of 2% is a bit suspicious... in fact even the article itself points this out. Small business is a very loose term. Obama and McCain both file Section C corporate business returns, because of their family royalties. Are they really the type of small business that makes up the back bone of the American economy? Of course not.

    Further, only about 6 Million small businesses or less, have employees. The rest are freelance workers, or hobbyists. For example, I was an on-call delivery driver for a year and half. I delivered medication all over Ohio as contract labor, and had to fill out a small business form, and do my taxes as a Schedule C myself.

    According to the small business administration, only 6 million have employees. So out of 6 Million small businesses, 479 Thousand will be hit with Obama tax hikes. That not exactly 2% is it? More like 13%.

    I love the way Ralph R. Reiland puts it:


    Ironically, in thinking about it, my current job, and my last job, both were small businesses that earned over $250K and undoubtedly will be hit by Obama taxes. So if I get laid off from my job, can I blame Obama and idiot supporters, who claimed his taxes wouldn't effect me?

    Further, Americans for Tax Reform, a nonprofit group in Washington DC, estimates that nearly two thirds of all small business profit, comes from businesses making $250K a year or more. So not only is it hitting 13% of small businesses, but it's hitting the most successful ones that hire the most people.

    If you want more proof that the 2% theory is wrong, simply go to:
    http://www.census.gov/epcd/www/smallbus.html
    Read the first chart. Note how a small fraction of the small businesses have employees. Then note the income from non-employee firms is fraction of employee firms.

    Two final notes before I move on... Obama has also discussed increasing corporate taxes like Social Security and Medicare, plus increasing the capital gains tax. All of which will hit small businesses. Lastly, all of these additional taxes will hit everyone since all taxes are past on to the consumer.

    Bottom line is this: The first complaint by the Idiots Blog, is, like all stupid liberal whines, is completely wrong. Obama will raise taxes on small business.
    If I have time, I'll debunk the other idiots blog claims later.
     
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    Pandora Well-Known Member

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    Come on, there is no spaghetti monster!
     
  14. pocketfullofshells

    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    well that's almost the same as the 10 things stated...so good job...have a lolly ...I have heard republicans make just about every, if not every claim on there more then a few times...I guess it was asking a lot that someone back them up.
     
  15. pocketfullofshells

    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    no there is just a big mystical god with super powers that can do anything he wants...and he will send me to a evil place of fire if I am bad.....
     
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