The Acorn thread

Re: How Acorn got me to scam

Lets see, you think CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS AND PBS are all biased and in another thread you started you referred to Democrat Obama as a "communist." It only logically follows then you must think that those that support Obama are communists too, right?

You want us to believe that you're a Democrat, when you recite extreme right wing talking points almost verbatim? You sound more like a member of the John Birch Society.

I can see how you've learned from your leader how to change the subject... He does that very well...
 
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Re: How Acorn got me to scam

I can see how you've learned from your leader how to change the subject... He does that very well...

In this thread you've produced links to Faux and the NY Post, both right wing and both Murdoch owned. Your sources, as mine, are open to challenge.

Also, as long as you persist in falsely claiming you are a Democrat, you will be called on it occasionally by those who know better.
 
Re: How Acorn got me to scam

Also, as long as you persist in falsely claiming you are a Democrat, you will be called on it occasionally by those who know better.

So because I don't support your views and your candidate that makes you think that I'm NOT a dem.

Didn't you mother ever told you when you were little,not to hang out with certain people because others will think that you are one of them?

It's not just Ayres, that is the issue here. There are more like: Rev. Wright. Father Fledger, Odinga, ACORN. His denial of his muslim beliefs. Yet, the eleite media never questioned him in the primaries and are giving him a free pass now.
He has no experience to lead!!! !:mad:
 
Re: How Acorn got me to scam

Yeah, particularly at Rupert Murdoch media outlets....what a coincidence.

Oh what a load of CRAP! I suppose you were one of the nimnods who blamed the evil conservative media for going after Clinton when he LIED to everyone, on television, and IN COURT?

Please, do try to grow a brain sometime soon.
 
Re: "ACORN", Another Obama Radical affilliation!!

ACORN's Senator
Obama, who once represented ACORN in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois, was hired by the group to train its community organizers and staff in the methods and tactics of the late Saul Alinsky. ACORN would stage in-your-face protests in bank lobbies, drive-through lanes and even at bank managers' homes to get them to issue risky loans in the inner city or face charges of racism.

In the early 1990s, reports Stanley Kurtz, senior fellow at the Ethics and Policy Center, Obama was personally recruited by Chicago's ACORN to run training sessions in "direct action." That's the euphemism for the techniques used under the cover of the federal Community Reinvestment Act to intimidate financial institutions into giving what have been called "Ninja" loans -- no income, no job, no assets -- to people who couldn't afford them.
 
Re: "ACORN", Another Obama Radical affilliation!!

Is ACORN Stealing The Election?

What does all this have to do with Obama, besides the fact that he'd be the beneficiary of most, if not all, of these new votes?

For starters, Obama paid ACORN, which has endorsed him for president, $800,000 to register new voters, payments his campaign failed to accurately report. (They were disguised in his FEC disclosure as payments to a front group called Citizen Services Inc. for "advance work.")

What's more, Obama worked as executive director of ACORN's voter-registration arm, Project Vote, in 1992. Joined by two other community organizers on Chicago's South Side, Obama conducted the voter-registration drive that helped elect Carol Moseley-Braun to the Senate that year.

The next year, 1993, Obama joined the civil-rights law firm Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland, where he sued the state of Illinois on behalf of ACORN to implement the federal "Motor Voter" law, which the GOP governor at the time refused to do. Then-Gov. Jim Edgar argued, presciently, that the Clinton law would invite voter fraud.
 
Re: "ACORN", Another Obama Radical affilliation!!

ABC NEWS

Page 1 of 8 pages for "acorn":

Voter Registration Boom Favors Obama
... states have accused ACORN, which claims to have registered 1.3 million ... duplicated information. ACORN has said it informs election ...
Oct. 9, 2008 | Whitney Woodward; Mike Baker Associated Press Writers
Missouri Officials Suspect Fake Voter Registration
... Now, or ACORN. She said they were bogging down work Wednesday, the final ... Midwest director of ACORN, said his group hasn't done any registrations ... seized records from ACORN after finding fraudulent registration forms ...
Oct. 8, 2008 | Bill Draper Associated Press Writer
McCain Pledges Balanced Budget, Criticizes Obama
... "No more ACORN," referring to a group that registers poor voters. " ...
Oct. 8, 2008 | Philip Elliott Associated Press Writer
Voter Fraud? Officials Raise Concerns About Thousands of Suspicious Voter Registrations
... ; suspicious; ACORN; Avni Patel; Blotter; concern; Nevada ... commonly known as ACORN. The group, along with its partner Project Vote, ... registrations submitted by ACORN, including some using the names of ...
Oct. 8, 2008 | Avni Patel
ACORN Office in Vegas Raided in Voter-Fraud Probe
... ACORN Office in Vegas Raided in Voter-Fraud Probe ... chief organizer for ACORN, said the group has been working with election ... months, anytime ACORN has identified a potentially fraudulent application ...
Oct. 7, 2008 | Oskar Garcia Associated Press Writer
 
Re: "ACORN", Another Obama Radical affilliation!!

CBS News

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1. Boehner Escalates War On ACORN Story 10/09/2008
House Republican leader John A. Boehner of Ohio escalated the war on ACORN today, calling for it to be cut off from all federal money and going so far as to call for a ban on ACORN ...


2. Voter Registration Fraud Raid Video 10/08/2008
"CBS News RAW:" Nev. investigators raided the state headquarters of ACORN, an organization that advocates for low and moderate income families, on suspicion of voter registration fraud.


3. Non-Profit Raided In Voter Fraud Probe Story 10/07/2008
The Las Vegas headquarters of the nation’s largest grassroots community organization for low-income people was raided today by Nevada state authorities as part of a voter-fraud probe.


4. ACORN Office In Vegas Raided In ... Story 10/07/2008
Nevada state authorities are raiding the Las Vegas headquarters of an organization that works to get low-income people to vote.
 
Re: "ACORN", Another Obama Radical affilliation!!

Now, you were saying....WHAT about sources Popeye???
 
Re: "ACORN", Another Obama Radical affilliation!!

Yeah, particularly at Rupert Murdoch media outlets....what a coincidence.
Here's a shiny quarter...
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now you can afford to pay attention:

Rupert Murdoch has endorsed your messiah and predicts he will win...

Rupert Murdoch -- Chairman of News Corp, new WSJ owner, and longtime torchbearer for conservative politics -- said this about Barack Obama: "He is a rock star. It's fantastic" "I love what he is saying about education." "I don't think he will win Florida.....but he will win in Ohio and the election". "I am anxious to meet him." "I want to see if he will walk the walk." -- Huffing and Puffington Post

I guess you have to "Change" smear gears now and say nice things about him. :rolleyes:
 
The truth about Obama and ACORN relationship!!!

Barack Hussein Obama lies again about his relationship with ACORN. According to his web site (Fight Smears), Obama never worked for ACORN in any capacity: He was never a community Organizer, He was never a trainer and never worked there in any capacity....

You are so wrong Barack Hussein Obama.. But don't take my word for it; Just google the court case ACORN V Edgar case and you'll get to the bottom of this....

Obama started building the base years before. For instance, ACORN noticed him when he was organizing on the far south side of the city with the Developing Communities Project. He was a very good organizer. When he returned from law school, we asked him to help us with a lawsuit to challenge the state of Illinois’ refusal to abide by the National Voting Rights Act, also known as motor voter. Allied only with the state of Mississippi, Illinois had been refusing to allow mass-based voter registration according to the new law. Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar (the name of the Republican governor at the time) and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5000 of them).

Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office. Thus, it was natural for many of us to be active volunteers in his first campaign for State Senate and then his failed bid for U.S. Congress in 1996. By the time he ran for U.S. Senate, we were old friends. And along about early March, we started to see that the African-American community had made its move: when Sen. Obama’s name was mentioned at our Southside Summit meeting with 700 people in attendance from three southside communities, the crowd went crazy. With about a week to go before the election, it was very clear how the African-American community would vote. But would they vote in high enough numbers?

It seemed to us that what Obama needed in the March primary was what we always work to deliver anyway: increased turnout in our ACORN communities. ACORN is active on the south and west sides of Chicago, in the south suburbs and on the east side of Springfield, the state capital. Most of the turf where we organize in is African American, with a growing Latino presence in Chicago’s Little Village and the suburbs.

ACORN members were involved in three activities around the primary:

1) Block captains were identified, as early as the summer before the March primary, and provided with lists of registered and unregistered voters and voter registration materials. We attended trainings and accountability meetings to receive our materials and make plans to get the people registered. Then we came back to report on our progress. We also hired voter registrars in the final three weeks to work the supermarkets in our communities. By the February 17 voter registration deadline for the primary, ACORN had registered 12,984 new voters. This was an organizational best for us. (As of this writing, we have added over 27,000 new voters).

2) Block captains then went to work to turn out the vote. They were all volunteers until the last few days, when we received funding to pay some of our block captains in some precincts of the 24th ward (North Lawndale) and the 15th ward (West Englewood) to get out the vote on the last Saturday before the election and on election day.

3) In some precincts in the 15th ward, we were able to hire canvassers to work on voter turnout for a full two weeks before the election. Each canvasser worked two to three precincts during that time.

The results of this activity were very interesting, and mirror what Professor Donald Green of Yale University has found about voter turnout work: where we were able to run a crew of paid and supervised canvassers for two weeks before the election, we did very well. In those targeted ACORN precincts in the 15th ward, voter turnout improved by an average of 50% over the previous year’s city election (the only other election since the redistricting). Citywide turnout increased by only 14% over the same election.

The way the canvassers approached each door was important. Instead of a speech about a candidate they engaged the potential voter in a conversation about the issues, relating their issues to the importance of voting, and moving them to a commitment to vote in the primary. In addition ACORN leaders were making the rounds talking to their neighbors about the election. I am proud to report that the combination of a paid canvass and my volunteer work was especially successful in turning out the vote in my two precincts (34 and 51). In those precincts we boosted turnout by 82% (precinct 34) and 90% (precinct 51) over the previous year’s turnout. ACORN leader Denise Dixon again paired with an effective canvasser, increased turnout in her precinct by 131%. The best performing precincts were the ones with a canvasser and a leader who worked at least Election Day and the Saturday before. There is a noticeable difference between these precincts and those that only had a paid canvasser in it, who wasn’t a local community leader.

We’re not ready to prove anything yet with our data, because we have not run a scientific test, but we believe Green’s results showing that door-to-door field work for two weeks before an election yields significant results, and we believe that there is a correlation with strong local leaders assisting the paid canvassing in winning even more dramatic increases.

The 24th ward has traditionally had higher voter turnout than in the 15th. The work leading up to the election in the 24th Ward was done by leaders who volunteered their time. Some were paid for two half days of door knocking, election day and the Saturday before. Turnout increased in ACORN precincts in the 24th ward at a rate higher than the city average, but not at the rate at which it increased in the 15th. Overall turnout was still higher in our 24th ward precincts than our 15th ward precincts, but the rate of increase was not as dramatic.

None of this is rocket science, but it is important. Good door-knocking by community residents for even two half days can impact turnout. Good door-knocking by paid and supervised canvassers for two weeks can have dramatic impact. And a combination of the two, especially with experienced community leaders working with the paid canvassers, can make a huge difference.

As it turned out, Obama won the primary handily, pulling white wards as well as African American. But no one knew that that would be the case. In each election we must act as if our work is critical for our communities. That is what we did in the primary, and we learned something in the process.

Toni Foulkes is a Chicago ACORN leader and a member of ACORN’s National Association Board.



Compare and contrast this article with the claim now on Obama’s Fight The Smears website:



• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.

Versus:


Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office.

When he returned from law school, we asked him to help us with a lawsuit to challenge the state of Illinois’ refusal to abide by the National Voting Rights Act, also known as motor voter. Allied only with the state of Mississippi, Illinois had been refusing to allow mass-based voter registration according to the new law. Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar (the name of the Republican governor at the time) and we won.

Ms. Foulkes says that every year since 1992 until at least the winter of 2003, Mr. Obama taught a “session on power” for ACORN.

If Obama will lie about something this blatantly, what else will he lie about?

And speaking of lying:


ACORN is active in experimenting with methods of increasing voter participation in our low and moderate income communities in virtually every election. But in some elections we get to have our cake and eat it too: work on nonpartisan voter registration and GOTV, which also turns out to benefit the candidate that we hold dear…

With about a week to go before the election, it was very clear how the African-American community would vote. But would they vote in high enough numbers?

It seemed to us that what Obama needed in the March primary was what we always work to deliver anyway: increased turnout in our ACORN communities…

ACORN operates its voter registration and get out the vote drives as a 503c3 “charity.” To get this tax exemption they claim to be non-partisan.

Of course they are anything but.

But who is going to stop them?
 

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Re: The truth about Obama and ACORN relationship!!!

Please.

The Truth is....they do what's necessary to assist those people's participation in the voting-process; those-people being the low-and-moderate-income and minority citizens who're typically financially-unable to have their voices heard, any-other-way.

Whatta shame we can't charge them admission, to polling-places, right? :rolleyes:
 
Re: The truth about Obama and ACORN relationship!!!

Please.

The Truth is....they do what's necessary to assist those people's participation in the voting-process; those-people being the low-and-moderate-income and minority citizens who're typically financially-unable to have their voices heard, any-other-way.

Whatta shame we can't charge them admission, to polling-places, right? :rolleyes:

How does helping someone register to vote get turned into reestablishing the poll tax...only in your world I guess.
 
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Re: The truth about Obama and ACORN relationship!!!

How does helping someone register to vote get turned into reestablishing the poll tax...only in your world I guess.
Gee.....who's more-entitled to have their agenda addressed; the low-and-moderate-income and minority citizens, who can't even consider hiring lobbyists....or, Corporate Amerika, who keeps lobbyists on retainers.

You really need to be asked that question? :rolleyes:
 
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