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The Craven Republicans

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Old_Trapper70, Jul 12, 2017.

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    Old_Trapper70 Well-Known Member

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    As usual they lack the courage to do what is right for the country. What are they scared of?

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-...blers&kwp_0=417517&kwp_4=1593530&kwp_1=688810

    "It is often said that the U.S. Presidency is a relatively weak office—but that is a contingent statement. To prevent the President from gaining too much power, or abusing that power, the Founding Fathers divided authority among the different branches of government, and established some fundamental governing principles. These are the fabled checks and balances, arranged, as James Bryce, the British jurist, noted in his venerable 1888 tome, “The American Commonwealth,” to “restrain any one department from tyranny.”

    But the checks and balances only work if each of Bryce’s departments agrees to play its allotted role. A President enabled by a spineless and supine Congress that fails to exercise its oversight powers isn’t a weak executive at all: he is a potential despot. Using his authority to hire and fire federal officials, he can rapidly remake the government to his own design, appointing loyalists to key positions, eliminating potential threats, and undermining alternative repositories of power.

    Authoritarian leaders in foreign countries seize and maintain power this way. And, despite his bungling start, this is the project that Donald Trump appears to have embarked upon. Since the end of January, he has appointed one of his closest political allies, Jeff Sessions, to run the Justice Department; fired an acting Attorney General, Sally Yates, who had warned the White House that the national-security adviser was compromised; and axed forty-six U.S. Attorneys, one of whom, Preet Bharara, had jurisdiction over Trump’s business empire. Now the head of the F.B.I., James Comey, has been ousted, at a time when the agency is conducting an investigation into possible collusion between Trump’s election campaign and the Russian government."
     
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    Lest we forget: "We can't wait for Congress to do its job, so where they won't act, I will." - President Obama

    As I said years ago and continue to say - Congress is acting well within their prerogative to do nothing if that is what they want to do. Declaring that as an impediment and proceeding as you see fit is indeed creating a tyranny in the Executive Branch. And while on the topic of "appointing loyalists to key positions" let us recall that Obama was actually defeated in the Supreme Court for his unconstitutional recess appointments after he decided that since Congress would not approve his picks he would just appoint them anyway....
     
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    Yes, and then they whine about the other party doing nothing. Or they just violate their constitutional duty in appointing federal judges.

    As to the recess appointments, this again was a scam by the Repugnant ones. For instance, they would have one member of the Senate open a session, and then 15 minutes later close the session to prevent Obama from making a legitimate appointment. So, appointments that Obama made, at a time when Republicans were using these kinds of procedural gimmicks to keep Congress technically in session, would be prohibited.

    But lets not talk about violations of the Constitution by Republicans, especially Trump..
     
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    Let's just be clear...it is the prerogative of Congress to do whatever it wants. If they don't want to confirm a nominee by the President they have no such obligation to do so. If they want to hold proforma sessions to prevent the President from being able to do a recess appointment that is also their prerogative. Ignoring this function of Congress, like President Obama actually did, and making an unconstitutional appointment resulted in the Supreme Court ruling against his actions.

    So what if Congress decides they are going to do absolutely nothing? That doesn't mean the President suddenly gets new powers because he is inconvenienced by the notion. Your attempt to justify the actions are made more comical by the FACT that the Supreme Court has already slapped them down.
     
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    Old_Trapper70 Well-Known Member

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    Man, I love the way you stand up for the lazy Repugnant Party, and the unConstitutional actions by them, and by Trump. Unfortunately, over the years the Congress, and various Presidents, have played loose and free with the Constitution, the declaration of war being yet another example, to the point that the Constitution is nothing more then a piece of paper with no meaning. Thus we are not a "nation of laws" since the Constitution is the "supreme law", and it is worthless since the only time either party wants to honor it is when it is to their advantage. And, sadly so, the people themselves, as you clearly demonstrate, could care less if they do.

    Then too, we now have Trump who completely ignores the Constitution in his desire to be ruler of all. His unConstitutional ban on Muslims; his using of the taxpayer dollars for his own enrichment; his public advertisement by him for his hotels, and golf clubs; his ignoring of the law passed by Congress in regards to sanctions on Russia; his daily lies; and the list goes on. And this is just the first year.

    Wel did George Washington warn of this time to come:

    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp
     
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