The Crumbling GOP

[Sihouette]

True. But banks are corporations. I was trying to focus on individuals and the pressure their own self-reflection will put on the GOP agendas.

Though true, corporations do lobby, but in the end it will cost them votes. There's no way around it. If you're a republican at this current description of the word and everything it now stands for, you either are dumber than dirt or meaner than snake poop. Any thinking, self-reflective person with a shred of morality simply cannot exist within the GOP matrix for longer than a buzzword or two.

Especially christians. You have many different sects of christianity but they all revolve around the 10 Commandments. You can't get away with anything less and still call yourself a Christian (or a jew for that matter if memory serves). So there's your problem: stand behind the GOP and go to Hell or diverge from it and have a chance at Heaven.

Hey, I didn't make up the rules!

 

[BigRob]

True. But banks are corporations. I was trying to focus on individuals and the pressure their own self-reflection will put on the GOP agendas.

Though true, corporations do lobby, but in the end it will cost them votes. There's no way around it. If you're a republican at this current description of the word and everything it now stands for, you either are dumber than dirt or meaner than snake poop. Any thinking, self-reflective person with a shred of morality simply cannot exist within the GOP matrix for longer than a buzzword or two.

Especially christians. You have many different sects of christianity but they all revolve around the 10 Commandments. You can't get away with anything less and still call yourself a Christian (or a jew for that matter if memory serves). So there's your problem: stand behind the GOP and go to Hell or diverge from it and have a chance at Heaven.

Hey, I didn't make up the rules!

Oh NO! A company is making money! The horror!

 

[Sihouette]

The only horror in a company making money is if it is at the expense of our nation, and done irresponsibly. Revist the recent Bailout Bill if you need any examples of that...

And I was not the one bringing corporations into this conversation. Revist my quote to see I was making it clear that the demise of the GOP will come about as a result of common folk examining the GOP agenda as weighed against the 10 Commandments and finding that they've been horribly led astray, by from what all appearance seems to be the AntiChrist Machine..

 

[BigRob]

The only horror in a company making money is if it is at the expense of our nation, and done irresponsibly. Revist the recent Bailout Bill if you need any examples of that...

I agree, especially when the government forces them to act irresponsibly. For an example of that, see the recent bailout bill.

And I was not the one bringing corporations into this conversation. Revist my quote to see I was making it clear that the demise of the GOP will come about as a result of common folk examining the GOP agenda as weighed against the 10 Commandments and finding that they've been horribly led astray, by from what all appearance seems to be the AntiChrist Machine..

I remember when Clinton lost and then Republicans made big gains in Congress and all we heard about was how the Democrats are imploding. I doubt either party is going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[Sihouette]

The Democrats are always imploding. We are such a fractillated group. The only cohesion we have really is the ability to think and reason.

The GOP, on the other hand, has not been subjected to severe fractilizing in recent memory. Maybe Watergate came close...but they recovered.

The GOP's cohesion was christianity. When the GOP pushes the limits on the basic edicts of its cohesive base, [see the !0 Commandments vs the Iraq War] then the GOP has lost its cohesion.

 

[Sihouette]

I still haven't heard a solution of how to bridge the platform of evil vs the GOP base of "christian morals"?

I think if the GOP doesn't resolve this issue soon, there will be no more republican party. I don't think this is healthy for our nation. I'd like a republican party that pushes against the more socialist one to keep this country a balance of socialism and capitalism.

The trouble is that in order to espouse capitalism, you have to not be christian; because capitialism is nothing but "the dollar first above all else" and the very first of the 10 Commandments says not to worship anything else above God and God's basic edicts (which are the 9 that follow the first). So christians should form "the christian party" and leave the GOP to cutthroat capitalists that are now running it anyway. There surely are enough Godless grifters to make up the capitalism party, yes? They could push their ilk. The christians could push their ilk and the democrats could push their ilk and between them all we can find a balance.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

I don't know where you get the idea from that there is socialism in the US.

There is either right wing or VERY right wing.

It shows that years of anti-socialism propganda has got to you badly.

 

[Sihouette]

True...I was just going along with the moles' defining of anything left of neocon as "socialist". Thanks for that correction.

It's funny how in Orwellian fashion the neocons tout their party as the party of morality and people who are actually moral as "the evil of socialism". They're pretending to belong to a faith that espouses "love thy brother", while any policy that even hints at "loving thy brother" is deemed "evil".

Remember Orwell's "Ministry of Truth"? Reminds me of Fox news in many ways...

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

You mean like the department of defence is actually the department of attack?

 

[Sihouette]

Yes, very much along those lines. It's been years since I read Orwell's 1984. I'll have to pick it up again soon.

Actually, we've been living Orwell's 1984 so maybe I'll get permission to write a sequel? I think I'll just dispense with insinuations and title it: BigOil: the rat-bastards that stole a nation..

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I wonder sometimes how many people we're really talking about here with regard to implied conscious decisions.

Enough to finance a brand, new pup-tent.....they hope.

"Eric Cantor (R-VA), incoming Republican Whip, gives the same tired and canned response on why republicans are failing to reach out to minorities, becoming more and more a homogeneous group of like-minded, mainly white conservatives. Cantor says they'll reach out by appealing to economic concerns like "the diminution of their 401-K's", lowering taxes, and all the other red herrings that don't answer why people of color, and whole regions of the country are moving away from the republicans in droves. It's doubtful chanting "Tax cuts! Tax cuts! Tax cuts!" will make the Republicans a more inclusive party."

 

[Plainspeaker]

It is right and proper that the republican party is condemned to a long time in the wilderness after the Bush years while it rethinks its policies and modernises.

Many of the old guard will have to leave one way or another to convince people it has rid itself of fundamentalism, aggression, barely-hidden racism, homophobia and social inequality.

Palin represents all these antequated views and will probably destroy the party if she is selected in 2012. I very much doubt she will be.

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

I don't know where you get the idea from that there is socialism in the US.

There is either right wing or VERY right wing.

It shows that years of anti-socialism propganda has got to you badly.

Actually, what we have is corporate socialism, who is right now being bailed out by the Government? Who's money is being used to bail them out? Is this not the dreaded "redistribution of wealth" about which so many right wingers have screamed in terror?