The Greater Israel Map ; Zoom!

[Coyote]

The palestinian arabs left their land and the jews DIDN'T - in a conflict meant to KILL THE JEWS, NOT THE PALESTINIAN ARABS.


I wonder, in what logical calculation can one pretend the claims of ownership by the palestinians to defeat the claims of ownership by the jews???? It is an absurdity of epic proportions no reasonable individual would even deign to contemplate!

And your assertion becomes more absurd from the fact that the war of aggression and extermination of the jews was conducted upon the instigation and cooperation of these same palestinian arabs and their leadership.


No apology is required for an act of SELF-PRESERVATION, in a conflict NOT of their own making.

No apology is required for the inalienable right of a people to DECLARE NATIONHOOD.

No apology is required to undertake ANY AND ALL MEANS to ensure the integrity and continued existence of the jewish nation.

The only apology in this forum comes from your continued justification of the use of force towards the megalomaniac end of exterminating the jews. Not only are the arabs completely incompetent of achieving such a task, they have the temerity to enlist the aid of the international community in their petty adventurism.

The Palestinians fled out of fear of being killed. They were refugees. Usually refugees are allowed back. Israel did not allow them back once the war was over. They took their houses and give them to Jewish citizens. Finally, under international pressure they relented and let a few - a very few back in.

No, it isn't absurb in the occupied territories. Their cause is just as righteous as that of the Israeli's and their plight just as unjust. That's the problem.

It's also important to remember that the Israeli's had a part in instigating hostilities in order to gain territory - this has been openly admitted by a number of high level Israeli military and political figurres.

It's time to put the lie of poor little Israel vs. big bad arabs to rest. There was plenty of wrong doing done by both sides.

 

[bewitched]

The Palestinians fled out of fear of being killed. They were refugees. Usually refugees are allowed back. Israel did not allow them back once the war was over. They took their houses and give them to Jewish citizens. Finally, under international pressure they relented and let a few - a very few back in.

No, it isn't absurb in the occupied territories. Their cause is just as righteous as that of the Israeli's and their plight just as unjust. That's the problem.

It's also important to remember that the Israeli's had a part in instigating hostilities in order to gain territory - this has been openly admitted by a number of high level Israeli military and political figurres.

It's time to put the lie of poor little Israel vs. big bad arabs to rest. There was plenty of wrong doing done by both sides.

all Jordan has to do is enact the Right of Return and give Palestine some territory and it's over. but nooooooo. that's not gonna happen because the real motivation (which the West doesn't see) is getting rid of the jews. (non-muslims)

 

[Coyote]

all Jordan has to do is enact the Right of Return and give Palestine some territory and it's over. but nooooooo. that's not gonna happen because the real motivation (which the West doesn't see) is getting rid of the jews. (non-muslims)

You're not understanding what I said...or maybe you don't know the history?

How can you have a "right of return" that would "return" the Palestinians to a place they'd never been to begin with?

In addition, Israel currently holds much land that was to have been part of Jordan.

Maybe they should return it.

 

[bewitched]

You're not understanding what I said...or maybe you don't know the history?

How can you have a "right of return" that would "return" the Palestinians to a place they'd never been to begin with?

In addition, Israel currently holds much land that was to have been part of Jordan.

Maybe they should return it.

no there was an agreement in Oslo that changed the borders. what is not accepted is the religion, not the borders. convert all the jews to muslims and there probably wouldn't be a problem.

yes, there were colonies of Palestinians in Jordan. and there are easier solutions but it's that non-pluralism in Islam, there isn't even an Arabic word for religious pluralism, that is the problem.

but again, from western eyes and our love of history and fairness...

 

[Coyote]

no there was an agreement in Oslo that changed the borders. what is not accepted is the religion, not the borders. convert all the jews to muslims and there probably wouldn't be a problem.

yes, there were colonies of Palestinians in Jordan. and there are easier solutions but it's that non-pluralism in Islam, there isn't even an Arabic word for religious pluralism, that is the problem.

but again, from western eyes and our love of history and fairness...

No, it's not the religion - it's about borders and land and fairness. Jews have lived within the area for a very long time without problem.

There's an easy solution. Go back to the agreed upon borders that defined the creation of Israel, announced in the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel as read by David Ben Gurion in Tel Aviv on May 14, 1948 or the borders agreed upon at the 1949 Armistice.

https://www.houseofpolitics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2002&page=5

 

[bewitched]

No, it's not the religion - it's about borders and land and fairness. Jews have lived within the area for a very long time without problem.

There's an easy solution. Go back to the agreed upon borders that defined the creation of Israel, announced in the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel as read by David Ben Gurion in Tel Aviv on May 14, 1948 or the borders agreed upon at the 1949 Armistice.

https://www.houseofpolitics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2002&page=5

jews pay 80 million dollars in jizya to live there. they are renters. who haven't been problemless because they get missiles shot into their neighborhoods and pregnant women strap on bombs and go to their markets...
there won't be peace even if 1948 is recreated. I promise.

 

[Lasher]

The Palestinians fled out of fear of being killed. They were refugees. Usually refugees are allowed back. Israel did not allow them back once the war was over. They took their houses and give them to Jewish citizens. Finally, under international pressure they relented and let a few - a very few back in.

No, it isn't absurb in the occupied territories. Their cause is just as righteous as that of the Israeli's and their plight just as unjust. That's the problem.

It's also important to remember that the Israeli's had a part in instigating hostilities in order to gain territory - this has been openly admitted by a number of high level Israeli military and political figurres.

It's time to put the lie of poor little Israel vs. big bad arabs to rest. There was plenty of wrong doing done by both sides.

It is my fervent hope that Iran obtains nuclear weapons from Russia and uses them to make crispy-critters out of every Zionist Jew on Palestinian land, and that includes all of what those Zionist dogs claim to be Israel. I would literally dance in the streets and laugh and sing if that wonderful occurence should somehow happen. Jews are the bane of the human race and should all be eradicated to insure the future moral health of the world.

 

[Segep]

OK, if I was a mod right now you'd be banned for incitement to violence and hate speech

Crawl back under your rock Lasher.

 

[Lasher]

Hey, Israel was perfectly fine with their borders until 6 Arab countries decided to attack the day after Israel was founded. They lost and Israel took some of their land. That's how war works.

Then they cry and beg to get their land back, Israel gives it to them and they go and attack again. 100% of the blame for Israel's land grabs deserves to be placed on the shoulders of Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Iran, and Saudi Arabia.

Mazel tov, old sport. Have a great Rosh Hashannah, Passover, Yom Kippur, Hannukah and all those other tonsil-twisting celebrations you jews like to shove into the faces of the Christians of this country, you 2% minority fakers.

There are probably more Arabs in America than you lice, yet you force your religious crap down the throats of everyone and the Arabs do not. It's okay to put a menorah on a public square, but a crucifix, no way!! God, I detest you vermin!!!

 

[Lasher]

OK, if I was a mod right now you'd be banned for incitement to violence and hate speech

Crawl back under your rock Lasher.

If a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its ass when it jumps, you stupid moron. You kikes are always using the authority to do your dirty work, aren't you? You have set up brigades of slimy Zionist punks to tell the law that you need protection and then get people who exercise their free speech rights thrown into the slammer. You cowardly dogs!! I hope every Jew dies an agonizing death in hell.

 

[Segep]

LMAO

classy

 

[Lasher]

I thought so, Jewboy.

 

[Lasher]

OK, if I was a mod right now you'd be banned for incitement to violence and hate speech

Crawl back under your rock Lasher.

Any speech about a dirty kike is usually hate-speech, old sport, so what?

 

[Segep]

I thought so, Jewboy.

Firstly, that's not an insult--no matter what your twisted values tell you. Secondly, I'm not Jewish.

 

[Segep]

Aww Lasher, where is the love? Cheer up. Maybe someday you'll get a visit from

and he'll give you your self esteem back.