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"The John Adams Project"

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by XCALIDEM, Sep 9, 2009.

  1. XCALIDEM

    XCALIDEM Active Member

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    http://www.aclu.org/safefree/detention/johnadams.html

    It makes me sick to read this, but here it goes:
    Not only this group is helping out terrorists by providing them with legal represantations, but they're now providing Alqaeda and all the terrorists groups with pictures and information about our CIA agents.



    Should these stupid liberals be prosecuted for treason?

    I wonder how the families of those who died on 9-11 must feel to learn about these radical groups who support Obama.... This is ridiculous...:mad:
     
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    "The John Adams Project"???

    Probably named for the American lawyer (later our 2nd President under the Constitution) who volunteered to defend the British soldiers in court who fired into a crowd of Americans in what came to be known as "The Boston Massacre", before the American Revolution.

    Adams was able to prove that the British soldiers heard an order to fire, coming from the direction of their superior officers, in the midst of being pelted by rocks, chunks of ice, etc. by an angry, screaming crowd. Adams proved it by summoning witnesses from both the British and American sides who were present at the shootings and saw and heard what happened, and who testified they heard the order given. It was also established that the British officers never gave that order, and that it probably came from someone in the crowd standing behind the British officers. Since the soldiers heard it coming from the direction of their officers while they were being physically assaulted by the crowd at the time, the court concluded it was reasonable for them to assume the officers had given the order, and found them Not Guilty of murder.

    Of course, there is a major difference between those soldiers and the terrorists held at Gitmo: The British soldiers were uniformed members of the armed services of the universally-accepted government of Massachussets Colony at the time: The British Parliament. The Gitmo terrorists are thugs in civilians clothes, not members of (in fact disowned by) the armed forces of every national government on earth, who made war against the United States.

    According to the Geneva Convention, the Gitmo terrorists indeed should not be at Gitmo at all: They should have gotten summary field judgment where they were captured, been lined up against a wall, and shot as spies.

    But somehow I doubt this is the aim of the AntiAmerican Communist Lackey's Union: To have them summarily shot as spies as they deserve.

    John Adams is probably rolling over in his grave (not for the first time) with the use of his name to title the treasonous activities of the ACLU.
     
  3. XCALIDEM

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    great post!!!
     
  4. XCALIDEM

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    any liberals have anything to say.....?
     
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    The ACLU is giving pictures of our CIA people and showing it to terrorists is as bad as it gets. They should all be deported, every last one of them.

    I want to say they should be shot like in history but I really dont like the death penalty.

    The ACLU is one of the most dangerous group of crazy left wing nut jobs.
     
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    Has Keith O gave his spin on it yet? Or any of the others that the left follows lock step?

    Might have to wait for them to defend it so everyone knows what to say.
     
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    I fully support the ACLU's decision. The ACLU stated their reasons quite clearly:

    We took this step because of our grave concerns that the Guantanamo military commissions process does not reflect our country's commitment to justice and due process. The military commissions' authorization of the use of coerced evidence possibly derived from torture, secret evidence, and hearsay is unconstitutional and counter to American traditions of fairness and justice.
     
  8. XCALIDEM

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    Liberal thinking minds are scary. I just don't get it, how can you side with our enemies? I can't believe that you agree with giving away the identities of our secret agents? that's bull ****! these people put their lives on the line to keep your ass safe!!

    Perhaps you find joy from watching our country attacked.

    Does this remind you of something?

     
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    I'm sure they're keeping quiet on the issue... :mad:
     
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    This 'MANURE SPEAK' just proves the #1 reason that the ACLU was formulated and has continued to be the necessary counter balance for those lessor thinking (cough-cough-gagging) HUMANS who believe that they 'CAN' do unto others as they choose too :mad:

    GOOD GRIEF...take an adult with you everywhere...you shouldn't be left to wander around in public...it isn't safe for the unsuspecting public!!!
     
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    Pre-911. That's where we are going.

    We can't have all of our freedoms without people to protect them.

    Who will want to work for the CIA if they know they will just be kicked around by some ACLU idiots.

    Lets see if any of those ACLU folks had any family in the 9/11 attacks injured or killed if they would be so fast to pass judgement. I doubt it.
     
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    It wouldn't help. That's just little aspca's reaction whenever someone says something he doesn't like but can't refute: He attacks the messenger instead. Hysterical screaming, insults, and namecalling are all he has.

    Why mess up a perfectly good dog?

    Back to the subject:
    According to the Geneva Convention, the Gitmo terrorists indeed should not be at Gitmo at all: They should have gotten summary field judgment where they were captured, been lined up against a wall, and shot as spies.

    But somehow I doubt this is the aim of the AntiAmerican Communist Lackey's Union: To have them summarily shot as spies as they deserve.

    John Adams is probably rolling over in his grave (not for the first time) with the use of his name to title the treasonous activities of the ACLU.
     
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    Everybody needs to behave here. You know who you are.
     
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    I dont know where the line is when it comes to any specific law when it comes to the ACLU activities. I need more info than what Oreilly's story provides, as well as the ACLU link before I can draw a final conclusion.

    One thing I will say, is that jumping someone like the "reporter" did was totally out of line. If he would have done that to me, certainly a much more physical reaction would have happened. If anyone would have likely been shot, it is the guy with the microphone who deserves to land himself in jail as far as im concerned.

    Then of course you are ignoring the pink t-rex in the room. Which is the outing of Valerie Plame, and the subsequent commution of punishment with Scotter Libby.

    As for the the families of those killed on 9-11, here is the statement from two groups from the ACLU link.

    http://www.aclu.org/safefree/detention/34775res20080403.html
     
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    Which people should be deported?

    This is interesting. Do you think any of the various Constitutional Amendments are more important than another?
     
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