The top 6 reasons we got Osama bin Laden

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Time to take stock, of what it really took to get bin Laden.

Seal Team 6 was the sharp point of the spear, put themselves at grave risk to get the job done, and carried out the mission with professional precision despite the inevitable things that changed or went wrong.

But we should look at the entire weapon, not just the tip.

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Morning Bell: Top Six Reasons We Got Osama bin Laden

Posted May 4th, 2011 at 9:41am

Taking down Osama bin Laden was an achievement resulting from a culmination of a decade of national security policy. Soft power and diplomacy helped along the way, but it was hard power and military might that made it possible. President George W. Bush put the correct policies in place, including the PATRIOT Act, Gitmo and increased intelligence gathering. President Barack Obama was wise to continue executing many of the same strategies. Here are the main reasons we were able to take him out.

#1. We Invaded Afghanistan.
Anyone who is a hunter knows you have to flush game out before you bag it. It often works the same way with terrorists. The Taliban refused to give up bin Laden because the two groups were joined at the hip and saw Afghanistan as just the first step in building bin Laden’s worldwide terrorist empire—pushing him out was job #1.

#2. We Set Up Gitmo.
When the full story of the long war against terrorism is told, we will learn that detaining and interrogating enemy combatants was a critical tool in winning the war. Indeed, we have found that when we released Gitmo detainees, many of them went back to the battlefield. There are already reports that detainees through lawful interrogations provided key intelligence cues that helped tracked down bin Laden. CIA Director Leon Panetta told NBC News yesterday that “enhanced interrogation techniques“ were used to extract information that led to the mission’s success.

#3. We Increased Intelligence Gathering.
We had a number of intelligence operations running inside of Pakistan with the help of the government. We used the data collected there, in Afghanistan, at Gitmo and at other facilities around the globe to diligently and patiently connect the dots. This high quality analysis is not possible without modern technology and military equipment and dedicated personnel.

#4. We Didn’t Quit Afghanistan.
Afghanistan provided a base to keep bin Laden at bay. Drone strikes limited the enemy’s freedom of movement. The base in Afghanistan helped collect intelligence about the enemy and in the end served as the base to launch SEAL Team Six to take the enemy out. Our mission in Afghanistan now remains to help build a nation that can govern and protect itself, so that it can act as a seawall to keep the Taliban and their al-Qaeda sponsors from going back and forth across the border. This is a job worth doing and one that can be done. In fact, recent polls show that in the wake of taking out bin Laden, there has been an upswing of Americans who are now convinced that the war in Afghanistan can be won. They are right.

#5. We Protected the Homeland.
At least 38 terrorist plots have been foiled since 9/11. Our ability to protect the homeland while we hunted bin Laden was an important part of keeping him cornered until he could be hunted down.

#6. We Provided for the Common Defense.
Protecting America can’t be done with special operations alone or just by lobbing drones and cruise missiles at the enemy. (That was the Clinton strategy, which failed.) SEAL Team Six may have gotten bin Laden, but it was because conventional forces chased him out of Afghanistan, we rounded up prisoners and sent them to Gitmo to be interrogated, and we established a presence in Afghanistan to hold bin Laden at bay and then launch operations against him. A strong military and special operations strategy go hand in hand. The troops who have been fighting this battle since 2001 are brave warriors who deserve the best equipment and tools to get the job done.

President Obama should be praised for his command this weekend, as should the military and civilian leaders of the past decade who gave him the necessary security apparatus to make this an easy decision. Obama should not use this one victory to reverse course, deplete our military readiness, abandon the war in Afghanistan and weaken our national security. We should remain vigilant in the ongoing war against terrorism.
 
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ehh obama had little to nothing to do with his apprehension these things start in the military intel fusion rooms and work thier way up to the pentagon, then a paper comes over to obama or a note is placed on his daily brief that says bin ladin is here we are 99% sure, and do you want to get him select YES or NO or MAYBE LATER
so i dont really see why you will give obama mad props anymore than you will give obama props for the gulf oil disaster
 
ehh obama had little to nothing to do with his apprehension these things start in the military intel fusion rooms and work thier way up to the pentagon, then a paper comes over to obama or a note is placed on his daily brief that says bin ladin is here we are 99% sure, and do you want to get him select YES or NO or MAYBE LATER
so i dont really see why you will give obama mad props anymore than you will give obama props for the gulf oil disaster

outside of that little fact that he helped come up with the plan that we used to get it, and pushed the CIA to focus more on this, and changed our strategy in Afghanistan..and from reports I have read, even suggest changes to the plan that may have saved some our our troops...as he changed the plan to have backup choppers ready in case of problem with one of the ones we sent in..orig plan had them on the border in case, but to far out ..Also sounds like they Originally pushed for a air strike on it...meaning that 1 we would have not known he was there, and 2 we would have lost many computers and lots of intel..including what we now know about planned attacks for sept 11 2011 on our rail system ( though sounds like was not going to happen regardless..we know what they had in mind)

But thats ok, I am just guessing had it failed, Bin Laden got away and or we lost a chopper or 2 full of seals....the same people who give him little credit..would have gave him all the blame.

Just like it was Jimmy Carters fault Choppers hit sand plums in the air and crashed ...
 
Time to take stock, of what it really took to get bin Laden.

Seal Team 6 was the sharp point of the spear, put themselves at grave risk to get the job done, and carried out the mission with professional precision despite the inevitable things that changed or went wrong.

But we should look at the entire weapon, not just the tip.

---------------------------------

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/05/04...er&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Morning+Bell

Morning Bell: Top Six Reasons We Got Osama bin Laden

Posted May 4th, 2011 at 9:41am

Taking down Osama bin Laden was an achievement resulting from a culmination of a decade of national security policy. Soft power and diplomacy helped along the way, but it was hard power and military might that made it possible. President George W. Bush put the correct policies in place, including the PATRIOT Act, Gitmo and increased intelligence gathering. President Barack Obama was wise to continue executing many of the same strategies. Here are the main reasons we were able to take him out.

#1. We Invaded Afghanistan.
Anyone who is a hunter knows you have to flush game out before you bag it. It often works the same way with terrorists. The Taliban refused to give up bin Laden because the two groups were joined at the hip and saw Afghanistan as just the first step in building bin Laden’s worldwide terrorist empire—pushing him out was job #1.

#2. We Set Up Gitmo.
When the full story of the long war against terrorism is told, we will learn that detaining and interrogating enemy combatants was a critical tool in winning the war. Indeed, we have found that when we released Gitmo detainees, many of them went back to the battlefield. There are already reports that detainees through lawful interrogations provided key intelligence cues that helped tracked down bin Laden. CIA Director Leon Panetta told NBC News yesterday that “enhanced interrogation techniques“ were used to extract information that led to the mission’s success.

#3. We Increased Intelligence Gathering.
We had a number of intelligence operations running inside of Pakistan with the help of the government. We used the data collected there, in Afghanistan, at Gitmo and at other facilities around the globe to diligently and patiently connect the dots. This high quality analysis is not possible without modern technology and military equipment and dedicated personnel.

#4. We Didn’t Quit Afghanistan.
Afghanistan provided a base to keep bin Laden at bay. Drone strikes limited the enemy’s freedom of movement. The base in Afghanistan helped collect intelligence about the enemy and in the end served as the base to launch SEAL Team Six to take the enemy out. Our mission in Afghanistan now remains to help build a nation that can govern and protect itself, so that it can act as a seawall to keep the Taliban and their al-Qaeda sponsors from going back and forth across the border. This is a job worth doing and one that can be done. In fact, recent polls show that in the wake of taking out bin Laden, there has been an upswing of Americans who are now convinced that the war in Afghanistan can be won. They are right.

#5. We Protected the Homeland.
At least 38 terrorist plots have been foiled since 9/11. Our ability to protect the homeland while we hunted bin Laden was an important part of keeping him cornered until he could be hunted down.

#6. We Provided for the Common Defense.
Protecting America can’t be done with special operations alone or just by lobbing drones and cruise missiles at the enemy. (That was the Clinton strategy, which failed.) SEAL Team Six may have gotten bin Laden, but it was because conventional forces chased him out of Afghanistan, we rounded up prisoners and sent them to Gitmo to be interrogated, and we established a presence in Afghanistan to hold bin Laden at bay and then launch operations against him. A strong military and special operations strategy go hand in hand. The troops who have been fighting this battle since 2001 are brave warriors who deserve the best equipment and tools to get the job done.

President Obama should be praised for his command this weekend, as should the military and civilian leaders of the past decade who gave him the necessary security apparatus to make this an easy decision. Obama should not use this one victory to reverse course, deplete our military readiness, abandon the war in Afghanistan and weaken our national security. We should remain vigilant in the ongoing war against terrorism.

1.yep, good thing Obama pushed for even more troops like I wanted...not less

2. there is no proof that the piece of intel we used could not have been attained without gitmo. And the CIA has said that the intel came months after the water boarding..showing that that itself was not the reason...also they stated that it came under normal interrogation.

3. Yep, and could have had even more if had not had so many in Iraq..also that Surge in Afghanistan that many ( not all) republicans where against, was part of that.

4. To bad many have been calling for that to end before, and even more now...in 1989 we pulled out of Afghanistan to let it fend for itself..that led to the Taliban...and the Bin Laden safe haven....I see no reason to have spent 9 years fighting to let that happen again unless we have no good choice.

5. Yes, but some have also only been stopped by luck...and more will get past us...you can't stop a group of people willing to die even less so in the age of the Internet where you can get into the heads of those who may commit "lone wolf acts" Its only to bad we did not do more before Sept 11...I don't believe Bush believed the thread of terrorism was as big and real as it was...I think Clinton did, while not always taking all the correct actions.

6. This fails to give the men on the intel side and CIA there props...they have also been getting killed and are the ones who give the military some of the targets like Bin Laden. But overall very much so true.
 
being a former intel fusion worker myself its pretty insulting to have all the success of the operation pinned on obamas collar, this of course always happens the people that put the hours of hard work into planing and analyzing the data that leads to these operations pass it off to their commanders who lock the door on their way out with the brief packet and no thanks ever comes their way

would you give me any thanks for the reduction in IEDs detonated in Iraq, no you wouldnt but you have no idea what i did to help stop it either and you never will but maybe youll give the thanks all to obama

i also look back at what was happening while in service and most of my recommendations were ignored, recommendations that would have significantly improved the situation, of course will never hear about the decisions the leaders didnt make that were more harmful than the ones they did make
 
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W and BO deserve some of the credit for OBL's death. IMO most of the credit goes to our intel and military personnel.

What I find hypocritical is the minimual critizism by the LEFT and their MEDIA of this EXECUTION. I thought they were against executions. I thought they were against torture...but killing is okay???....;)

And the irony is most delicious...BO gets OBL due to W's "torture" of terrorist prisoners. And, yet BO has for years condemned "torture" and black sites. He and the doufus Eric Holder are continuing prosecutions of intel personnel for their actions while Bush was president.

Oh the hypocrisy...and yet, some people can't see it. How is this possible?
 
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