Tyson: U.S. science illiteracy a serious threat

[PLC1]

Tyson: U.S. science illiteracy a serious threat

GREENSBORO — The United States has plenty of challenges in front of it these days.

The issue of greatest concern to perhaps one of the nation’s most well-known scientists, Neil deGrasse Tyson: Americans know far too little about science.

America’s decline isn’t unprecedented, Tyson said. Just look back 1,000 years ago at the Middle East, where math and science flourished in Baghdad. Algebra and algorithms were invented in the Middle East. So were Arabic numerals — the numbers we still use today.

But when a new cleric emerged during the 12th century, he declared math and science to be earthly pursuits, Tyson said, and good Muslims should be concerned about spiritual affairs.

and the results are obvious today, 1,000 years later. Food for thought, don't you think?

 

[grumpy]

Tyson: U.S. science illiteracy a serious threat





and the results are obvious today, 1,000 years later. Food for thought, don't you think?

I don't know what your food for thought is here. But I assume it's Christians beware..

 

[PLC1]

I don't know what your food for thought is here. But I assume it's Christians beware..

Nope. That's not it.
Rather than assume or guess, why not read the article?

 

[grumpy]

Nope. That's not it.
Rather than assume or guess, why not read the article?

I read every word.....
the Middle East, where math and science flourished in Baghdad. Algebra and algorithms were invented in the Middle East. So were Arabic numerals — the numbers we still use today.

But when a new cleric emerged during the 12th century, he declared math and science to be earthly pursuits, Tyson said, and good Muslims should be concerned about spiritual affairs.

Today, Tyson said, too many Americans reject evolution (known to scientists as the foundation of biology)

 

[dogtowner]

Where is science learned? Well, not learned as Tyson observes.

And who tolerates this lack of educational effort ?

We've had this discussion before and you know I blame the parent(s). But the schools have done little to help. They insulate poorly performing staff, move kids along whether they earn it or not and focus on anything but the 3 r"s.

 

[PLC1]

I read every word.....
the Middle East, where math and science flourished in Baghdad. Algebra and algorithms were invented in the Middle East. So were Arabic numerals — the numbers we still use today.

But when a new cleric emerged during the 12th century, he declared math and science to be earthly pursuits, Tyson said, and good Muslims should be concerned about spiritual affairs.

Today, Tyson said, too many Americans reject evolution (known to scientists as the foundation of biology)

Right. And today, the Middle East isn't exactly a place with a flourishing scientific community. Now, fast forward a few years, and what will the result of our own scientific illiteracy be?

Contrast the 12 years between Sputnik and the moon landing, and compare that with the past 12 and ask yourself what the result of the anti science mentality has been already.

 

[Walter]

Contrast the 12 years between Sputnik and the moon landing, and compare that with the past 12

Are you talking about schools or states who see antique religious views are more important than science? (I mean creationists vs. evolution)

 

[PLC1]

Are you talking about schools or states who see antique religious views are more important than science? (I mean creationists vs. evolution)

When it comes to the number of people who insist on the absurd young Earth creationist idea, that has to be antique religious views, such as the ones that killed the Arab renaissance a thousand years ago.

When it comes to schools, that manly reflects the desires and ideologies of the parents who send their kids there. Contrast the number of people attending a football game, for example, with the number who attend a science fair.

We have world class universities in the US, attracting students from all over the world. We also have a lot of Nobel Prizes in science being awarded, but who earns them? Mainly non native born.

 

[dogtowner]

Trying to blame this on Christianity?
Let's not forget Ole Mo bent islam to be a political entity for the purpose of plundering and power.
That is significant.
Nevermind science doing a rather poor job of being credible.

 

[PLC1]

Trying to blame this on Christianity?
Let's not forget Ole Mo bent islam to be a political entity for the purpose of plundering and power.
That is significant.
Nevermind science doing a rather poor job of being credible.

No, not blaming anything on Christianity, other than on fundies who insist on young Earth Creationism.

Science doing a poor job of being credible? In the 21st. century, with all of the advances we've seen in the past few years? How is that?

 

[dogtowner]

No, not blaming anything on Christianity, other than on fundies who insist on young Earth Creationism.

Science doing a poor job of being credible? In the 21st. century, with all of the advances we've seen in the past few years? How is that?

Phil Jones and Michael Mann admit the hockey stick was crap. But you knew that.

 

[PLC1]

Phil Jones and Michael Mann admit the hockey stick was crap. But you knew that.

Climate change denial is tantamount to science not being credible.

 

[dogtowner]

Climate change denial is tantamount to science not being credible.

When the very guys who initiated the problem admit it's not a problem, who is the denier?

 

[PLC1]

When the very guys who initiated the problem admit it's not a problem, who is the denier?

The guys who have been studying the phenomenon for decades say it's real.
The guys who read blogs with an agenda say it's not.

So, it all depends on who you listen to.

 

[dogtowner]

The guys who have been studying the phenomenon for decades say it's real.
The guys who read blogs with an agenda say it's not.

So, it all depends on who you listen to.

Jones & Mann
CERN has demonstrated otherwise as well.