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US last in preventable deaths

Discussion in 'Health' started by Popeye, Jan 8, 2008.

  1. Popeye

    Popeye Active Member

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    Definitely another argument for universal health care. Notice who's no. 1, oh, that terrible "socialized medicine."
    http://www.reuters.com/article/news...08?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0&sp=true
     
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    WE are used to these not credible studies that blame everything on the american non-socialized health care. The real reasons are probably related to the obesity epidemic in this country (that due to the omnipresence of cheap food) and the social pathologies of minorities. The poor in this country ARE covered by Medicaid - if they don't go to the doctor, that's on them. Remember how they try to claim the US has high infant mortality with blatantly rigged statistics? People should take "studies" like this with a grain of salt.
     
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    Does preventable death include diseases that are entirely preventable - such as deaths by AIDS, diabetes, hypertension, COPD, etc...? Did you ever stop to think that the diets of those countries mentioned above are far less nasty than the diets of Americans? It's not the the US has the worst healthcare, it's that the US has the worst lifestyle. There's a fast food restaurant on every corner...duh!

    Stop having butt sex with disease-ridden filth, eat right, exercise and don't smoke. You'll live longer than any Frenchy on earth. And if you get cancer and need an emergency operation, I'll bet you'd rather have an American doctor working on you than some eurotrash chimp.

    And where do sick people around the world go for health care? It sure ain't France. I live within 50 miles of the Mayo Clinic in MN. The town it's in (Rochester) is nothing more than a hospital town. But they had to build an airport to take care of all the foreign leaders and big wigs from around the world who come here REGULARLY for their healthcare.

    And I'm pretty sure it's not run by the government...:rolleyes:
     
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    I recently read an article which said that over 7 million people in the UK haven't seen a denitist in more than 2 years. They can't get an appointment. People are pulling their own teeth with household pliers.

    Socialized medicine? Thanks but no thanks.
     
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    that's part of a long tradition of bad teeth in the UK.

    as far as death goes... we need more of it. this place is too crowded.
     
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    This survey is about ten years old, but I doubt if much has changed. It demonstrates that many lower income children, in the US, don't go to the dentist either, because they lack health insurance.http://www.urban.org/publications/309527.html
     
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    If you love the USA so much, why not put up your real location, instead of something which makes me question your age.

    While Gordon Brown's new proposals for the NHS have been controversial, the British obviously feel it is a system worth keeping, as now the Conservative party is pledging to become "the party of the NHS.'


    http://news.scotsman.com/politics/Conservatives-39to-become-party-of.3635976.jp
     
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    I had my real location up for a long time (Minnesota), and no one seemed to give a crap. So I changed it - and now I'm a child because of that? :rolleyes: Brainiac...

    Maybe the Brits are so used to their liberal freebies that they refuse to ever give it up. Not so different from Medicare or Social Security. You think anyone receiving those benefits would ever say, "heck yes, let's end the program because I'm going to take charge of my own life and be responsible for my own future"? I think not.

    And the conservatives in England are probably just resigning themselves to that fact, as are many republicans in the US who refuse to go against social security reform out of fear of being dumped by voters.
     
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    That's because Dr.s are paid millions by the pharmaceutical companies to prescribe their brand of drugs.

    Here's an article showing how doctors have been paid hundreds of millions to prescribe drugs for anemia.

    In a for profit medical system it's all about the almighty dollar.
     
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    What was the life expectancy 100 years ago?

    The fact is that socialized medicine is failing everywhere it is tried including the UK. Socialized medicine isn't about getting better care, it is about equality and any thinking person knows that euqality only exists at the lowest common denominator. No one gets better care under socialized medicine, everyone is forced into the same crappy care.

    Show me a plan where everyone gets superior care and no one sits down to die on a waiting list for treatment that is considered routine here in the US and we will have something to talk about. Otherwise, to me, you are nothing more than a victim of a terrible system trying to convince me how good you have it when I know different.
     
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    And you show me a country with universal healthcare in which nearly 20% of it's citizens have no care at all, such as in the US.http://www.sflorg.com/comm_center/medical/
     
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    Here's something else to be proud of:

    From Wikipedia

    Of course, now that uninsured number is closer to 20%.

    You tell all those folks how happy they should be living in a country with a for profit health care system
     
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    No, the real reason for the study is that our for profit medicine is causing doctors and hospitals to make decisions based upon profit..that's it..nothing more..
     
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