What's wrong with govt trying to "help" people with their ordinary problems in life?

Little-Acorn

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Voters have realized that government has moved into the business of favoring one group over another, and imposing its rules and restrictions based not on the complete equality demanded by the Constitution, but on constantly-changing standards of "deserving", such as whether they are minorities, whether they are in unions, whether they own land where the snail darter or spotted owl lives, etc. (Needless to say, people who have earned and saved a lot of money, are at the bottom of this list.)

So many of those voters have inserted another qualification on whom they will vote for, for President. Their preferred candidate must be one who will favor them above others.

Since such selfish (and even larcenous) desires are not socially acceptable, they couch it in innocent-sounding phrases such as "I want a candidate who understands me", or "I want a candidate who sympathizes with the problems I am facing".

Back when government's only functions were national defense, coining money, setting standards, dealing with foreign nations, prosecuting certain crimes etc., such "sympathizing" was unnecessary. People tended to vote for the candidate they thought could handle the actual, legitimate functions of government better. And they tended to vote for stern, fatherly figures such as George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Grover Cleveland etc. whom they thought would enforce the laws impartially and deal with challenges sternly and with some degree of integrity.

But now that government's main function has become to relieve you of the everyday problems in your own personal life (distributing health care, controlling the people around you and regulating what they built, what they sold you, what they said in your hearing, planning your retirement savings for you, deciding for you what your children could eat in school, and generally saving you from your own follies and mistakes), more and more voters have now decided that it is more important to have a President they can count on to favor them more than they favor people not like them.

Thus do candidates who fight to "give" them health care based on how much they need rather than how hard they work to pay for what they get, and who favor those who "need more" over those who managed to provide their own without the assistance of government, get voted for more often than candidates who promise to make sure nobody stops you from earning enough to pay for your own health care. Same for candidates who promise to get you into college due to your skin color or national origin, over candidates who promise to make sure you have the same (and no more) chance to get into college regardless of your skin color... but leave it up to you to pay for it yourself.

Back when such matter were none of government's business, there was no point in voting for the more "sympathetic" candidate... and people would even wonder what kind of slippery trick you were trying to pull if you wanted someone who promised to make sure a pound of grain would weigh more at your mill than at the next town's mill... weights and measures being one of the few legitimate functions of government the candidate would actually be able to influence, in obedience to the Constitution.

And in the timeless response to socialistic governments throughout history (including govts with those characteristics long before the term "socialism" was invented), even the people who wanted to stick to the old rules of actual fairness and impartiality, have started to see that it is now a losing gambit. If they don't try to sway government into favoring them more than their neighbor, they will simply find government favoring them far less and oppressing them even more.

And so, one by one, they gradually release their fealty toward stern, impartial govenment that stays out of their lives, and throw in their lot with the people already trying to cadge more favors from government, whether in the name of "making reparations for the wrongs done by previous generations" or "providing health care to those who don't have it (itself a misleading lie)". And they do their best to vote for the candidate who (they will righteously tell you) "understands my own plight a little better" or "sympathizes for people in my particular position" - both phrases that boil down to "he will do more good things for me, and relax the regulations a little more for me, than he will for that guy over there."

Some people wonder why politicians pushing such favoritism, get so many votes. One explanation sometimes offered, is "voter fraud".

But in a sense, voter fraud isn't just fraud perpetrated AGAINST voters. There's another kind: The subtle fraud perpetrated BY voters against their fellow men, in an attempt to get government "on my side and not on your side".

And though subtle, this other kind of fraud is the most pernicious in the long run, since it causes the remaining fair, upright voters to abandon, one by one, their dedication to truly impartial government, and go over to supporting corruptible, me-over-you government.

And the more people who go over to this corruptible, me-over-you government, the more pressure this puts on the remaining (and now dwindling) individual citizens who desire stern-but-impartial government, to give up that desire, follow.
 
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Interestingly, the U.S. Constitution is specifically set up to forbid the Fed govt from doing any more than running Defense, foreign relations, prosecuting certain defined crimes, and the rest of the (very limited) list it contains, mostly in Article 1 Section 8. They even wrote in a section misleadingly called the "Welfare Clause", that should more problerly be called the "Uniformity Clause", that forbids the govt from spending money on anything but Defense and a few other specified programs, plus any programs that help all Americans equally. In other words, spending on special interests, is forbidden.

That amount to maybe 25% of what the Fed govt is actually doing today... a proportion that's decreasing fast.
 
Mr Acorn,,I see nothing wrong with people who have money help the little guy out. For example Mr Trump should give me some of his money to help me start a business and show me how to run a business if i make enough wealth i should pay him back what he gave me.
 
Mr Acorn,,I see nothing wrong with people who have money help the little guy out. For example Mr Trump should give me some of his money to help me start a business and show me how to run a business if i make enough wealth i should pay him back what he gave me.

That's what banks are for.
 
Dog,,Not True,,,Back in the old days before a type of group of people ran banks they give you a loan. How you think Bartenders owned Saloons in the old west? How you think undertakers sold coffins in the old west? How you think Shopkeepers own stores in the old west? How you think Barbers own barber shops in the old west? Getting Loans was easy back then. Just like getting girls to become your wife was easy,,But not anymore! These days are differant. I cant go futher though,,You know what group im talking about.
 
Dog,,Not True,,,Back in the old days before a type of group of people ran banks they give you a loan. How you think Bartenders owned Saloons in the old west? How you think undertakers sold coffins in the old west? How you think Shopkeepers own stores in the old west? How you think Barbers own barber shops in the old west? Getting Loans was easy back then. Just like getting girls to become your wife was easy,,But not anymore! These days are differant. I cant go futher though,,You know what group im talking about.

while banks had it easier back in small town days when they knew everyone you dtill had to qualify. standards got up and down as the money supply changes and as govt intrrferes. but most poeple way back worked and saved. it really was true that the banks would only loan to those who didnt need it.
 
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Mr Acorn,,I see nothing wrong with people who have money help the little guy out. For example Mr Trump should give me some of his money to help me start a business and show me how to run a business if i make enough wealth i should pay him back what he gave me.

He SHOULD or he could? If he should but chooses not to then who will force him to do it? Or will be just be wrong not to and no one will force him? In a world where the gov takes it upon itself to legislate all sorts of morality then why wouldn't Mr. Trumps choice to loan or not be the responsibility of gov to make sure that he does it? But in a country of limited gov then there are constitutional limits on what the gov forces people to do and what it cannot.
 
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