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Who is more giving...conservatives or liberals?

Discussion in 'Polls' started by GODSPEED, Jun 18, 2008.

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Which group is more generous at giving...?

  1. The Sean Hannity types

    11 vote(s)
    73.3%
  2. The Alan Colmes types

    4 vote(s)
    26.7%
  1. GODSPEED

    GODSPEED New Member

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    So, when it comes to giving both money, and time, which group is more giving, in general? Conservatives, or Liberals?
     
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    Pandora Well-Known Member

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    By far conservatives are the ones. Check a website out called fundrace, it is so funny that the biggest loud mouths from the left give practically nothing to their party or their candidates. They also give less when it comes to charity; there is a pretty good link someplace in here showing how much rich Lib’s DON”T give.

    Liberals are very charitable as long as it’s someone else money they are giving.
    Conservatives give their own money after they are sucked via taxes for liberal causes.
     
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    GODSPEED New Member

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    That is the most true statement I've heard! Just a funny side note...in my town here..Cincinnati..they just built a state of the art CREATION museum...it's pretty neat...not even just the fact of creation v evolution...but just the exhibits in it...are so lifelike it's amazing. Anyway...a liberal group around here is saying they want to build an Evolution museum right across the street...well, today on a local talk radio station..700WLW...the host was saying that it would never happen, b/c of that reason...the liberals who want it built, would never cough up their own money to do it. They want grants and special funds to make it happen, so it probably will never exist!
     
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    They will find a way to tax the people in the city and get it, they will be over budget and late on the opening :)
     
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    And then they will blame Republican leadership for running a deficit.
     
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    I like this thread, so far so true
     
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    In general Americans are more conservative minded than Canadians and Canadians give less to charity than Americans do. I think this is largely due to the fact that Canadians maintain that government has a responsibility to provide for all citizens while Americans in general consider that there should be few or no social platforms for people to fall back on. The Canadian view is much more consistent with the rest of the world's view.

    We Canadians do give freely and generously to charities which fall outside of what we consider our government's responsibility although not as much as Americans give.

    It appears that Americans would have it no other way and Canadians wouldn't either. This makes it rather doubtful that Americans will even adopt a reasonable healthcare system which will provide for the nearly 50,000,000 people being left out. We Canadians for the most part find that to be a very sick and selfish attitude toward fellow citizens.
     
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    The canadian view is that you should wait eight months for an MRI, meanwhile you die. The american view is you get it tomorrow.

    Your perceptions are widely at a remove from reality. The socialized systems all make a claim that they can't back up - they simply ration health care, eliminate the more expensive (and more effective) medicines, implement rules such as cut off ages for certain operations, and implement parasitism off the US system, such as the Canandian government negotiating lower prices for US meds - in essence they are being subsidized by american consumers.
     
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    Here is a quip from an article that addresses that:


    "one of the primary dangers associated with the rise of the nanny state is that when government assumes moral responsibility for others, people are less likely to do so themselves. Wolfe noted that large increases in welfare spending in Sweden, Denmark and Norway over the last half century have ended up eroding the moral fabric of families and civic institutions in these societies. Scandinavians have come to depend not on family, civil society, or themselves, but on the government for their basic needs.

    The problem with this Scandinavian-style welfare dependency is that many Scandinavians, especially young adults who have grown up taking the welfare state for granted, are markedly less likely to attend to the social, material, and emotional needs of family and friends than earlier generations. As a consequence, social solidarity is down and social pathology—from drinking to crime—is up. In Wolfe’s words, “High tax rates in Scandinavia encourage governmental responsibility for others; they do not, however, necessarily inspire a personal sense of altruism and a feeling of moral unity toward others with whom one’s fate is always linked.” Not surprisingly, cheating on taxes is on the rise in Scandinavian countries, both because the social solidarity undergirding these societies is fraying and because men and women—especially high earners—are recoiling from paying the hefty taxes associated with keeping their nanny states afloat (sound familiar?)."

    We Americans used to give more than we give now (sound familiar?).

    It appears that Americans would have it no other way and Canadians wouldn't either. This makes it rather doubtful that Americans will even adopt a reasonable healthcare system which will provide for the nearly 50,000,000 people being left out. We Canadians for the most part find that to be a very sick and selfish attitude toward fellow citizens.[/QUOTE]

    We do not have 50,000,000 being left out!! The correct quote of the incorrect fact is 47,000,000 but the correct fact is 13,000,000. I would be willing the bet that the equivalent amount of lack of service in Canada, considering how long people wait to see a doctor, is similar. I would add to that that of the 13 mil not a single one of them is without ability to avail themselves of medical care. Our system covers 100% of the citizens (and many non-citizens) one way or another.

    The correct thing to do is for you Canadiens to address the lack of service you have over there and for us Americans to address the lack of service we have over here. But I for one would not create a morally bankrupt system, one that steals from one person to provide for another, that would harm 100% of the populace in order to fix a problem experienced by 13 mil.
     
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    Can you give us a link please?
     
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