Who is responsible for the 9/11 attacks?

Who is responsible for the 9/11 attacks?


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What we have here is an intentionally complex issue, made so by the brilliant criminal minds who planned the 9/11/2001 FALSE FLAG OPERATION.

There are a LOT of smoking guns, and the fact that there are so many of them points to the fact that there where NOT 19 suicidal Arabs who hijacked 4 commerical airliners and crashed 3 of them into buildings, there is something else going on here, and because the Bush Crime Family is very close with the owners of what had been the 4th estate but is now a WMD
that is WEAPON of MASS DECEPTION, we have some serious problems sorting out what is or is NOT fact, HOWEVER
just taking what we know about the alleged events of 9/11/2001 ......
The improbable hijacking of 4 airliners, and not only hijacking, but getting the hijacker into the PILOT'S seat. (and X4 ... )
Not to mention the hijackings happen on a day when apparently Air Traffic Control is having problems and they LOOSE an airliner (also X4 ...)

When you really look at the big picture, the story is KRAZIE!
have you read the "official" 9/11 report?
do you believe it?

Please also read "The Emperor's New Clothes" and know this
the emperor is NAKED!
 
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have you read the "official" 9/11 report?

I can tell you haven't. You might have read some carefully extracted quotes woven together with conjecture, fallacies and flat out lies, but you haven't read the whole thing front to back - including the footnotes.

www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

Read the entire 584 pages. Then give me the specific page numbers and paragraphs you find "KRAZIE".
 
May I point out just one of the serious problems with this "book"
in ANY non-fiction work that undergoes revisions, the revision history is included in the book, where in this now 584 pages of lies and fraud does it admit to having been revised?

Also, if I quote anything from this 'document'
you can accuse me of pulling stuff out of context and therefore nullify the argument.

The fact is that the so-called document doesn't do anything except to function as a white-wash job.

Beware
the Military Industrial Complex ....
AMERICA had been warned, did it do any good?

Wake UP AMERICA
smell the burnt Reichstag!
 
And another thing!

"Bush hands over power"

NOT!

Governments govern by the consent of those governed.

The POWER rests with WE THE PEOPLE!

Bush doesn't have anything to hand over.

He will be replaced by yet another employee of WE THE PEOPLE
and my question is WILL ANYBODY BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE?

"you see, when the PRESIDENT does it, its not illegal"
Richard Nixon

WE THE PEOPLE must demand accountability before its too late!

WAKE UP AMERICA!
 
Since WTC was a hot potato in real estate market, (the insulator of the building was asbestoes that was poisonous to health) and the property belongs to New York Harbor authority. The government insider planned to pull it down for a long time. The trick was let it collapse in a terror attack, then let Insurance company pay the cost. That's why we saw there were two bombings. One was in 1993. The next time was on 911, 2001. All in the name of Islamic extremist.

The first WTC bombing was proved done under FBI's guidence. At that time, "Al Qaida" hadn't been invented. The name then was Islam extremist.

Quote, "Who Bombed The World Trade Center? FBI Bomb Builders Exposed!!

From the 'Lectric Law Library's stacks
Combined report by Paul DeRienzo, Frank Morales and Chris Flash
From newspaper _The_Shadow_ Oct. 1994/Jan. 1995 Issue

Two cassette tape recordings, obtained by SHADOW reporter Paul DiRienzo of telephone conversations between FBI informant Emad Salem and his Bureau contacts reveal secret U.S. Government complicity in the February 26, 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in New York City in which six people were killed and more than a thousand were injured.
After careful deliberation, the SHADOW believes the question regarding the bombing boils down to the following: Did the FBI do the bombing, utilizing informant Salem as an "agent provocateur" or did it fail to prevent an independent Salem and his associates from doing it? The taped conversations obtained by the SHADOW seem to indicate the former:
FBI Informant Edam Salem: "...we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the DA and we was all informed about it and we know that the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant. What a wonderful great case!"

Who is Emad Salem? FBI bomber, Arab double-agent or just greedy? Possibly a combination of all three. Salem is a former Egyptian Army officer who is currently the U.S. government's star witness against Egyptian cleric Dr. Omar Abdel Rahman, whom the FBI says was the ringleader in several bombing plots, including the World Trade Center. Shortly after the bombing at the Twin Towers (World Trade Center) the U.S. government moved to take Salem into the Witness Protection program.

According to the FBI, Salem was aware of the plot ostensibly because he had infiltrated Sheik Rahman and his associates. He was recruited as a government informant shortly after the 1991 assassination of of right- wing militant Rabbi Meir Kahane. As an associate of Rahman, Salem traveled in the cleric's inner circle, surreptitiously recording conversations, and selling his information to the Bureau. But unknown to his FBI handlers, Salem was also secretly recording his conversations with them, most likely to protect himself.

According to attorney Ron Kuby, after Salem was taken into the Witness Protection program on June 24, 1993, he told the feds about the more than 1,000 conversations he had recorded sometime between December, 1991 and June, 1993. Kuby says that while some of these tapes are not significant, others contain substantive dealings with Salem and his FBI handlers. Salem was actually bugging the FBI.

The World Trade Center bombing, along with subsequent alleged plots to bomb prominent targets in New York City, spawned a number of federal indictments and trials resulting in the conviction of more than a dozen men, all of Arabic descent. Salem's exposure as a government informant who had a year earlier infiltrated the group of men later charged in the bombing conspiracy caused many to wonder why he and the FBI failed to provide any warning of the pending World Trade Center bombing.

The answer now appears self-evident. According to William Kuntsler, attorney for Ibrahim El-Gabrowny, one of those accused in the larger bombing case, the entire conspiracy was the product of Salem, the government informant. Kuntsler's law partner Ronald Kuby told the SHADOW that within hours of the World Trade Center blast, Salem checked into a midtown hospital, complaining of a loud ringing in his ears. There is a growing belief that some of the four men charged and since convicted and jailed for the World Trade Center bombing, Mohammed Aboulihma, Mohammed Salameh, Nidal Ayyad and Ahmad Ajaj, may be innocent [victims] of a government frame-up.

Attorneys for those convicted have maintained that the government's case is circumstantial at best, with no evidence or motive linking the accused with the bombing. The FBI and federal prosecutors have not as yet responded to questions over the lack of warning of the attack on the Twin Towers, despite the strategic placement of their informant.

Two possible scenarios emerge. One: Salem is a rogue FBI informant who created the conspiracy to bomb the World Trade Center for the money his information about the plot (minus his role) would bring. An attorney for one of the convicted men told the SHADOW that Salem was an FBI informant from November of 1991 to the summer of 1992. The attorney says that the FBI became aware of the World Trade Center bombing plot through informant Salem during this period, but they refused to believe his information or pay Salem's exhorbitant fees. In fact, the feds claimed that they dropped Salem as an informant during the summer of 1992 after he refused or failed a lie detector test. This left Salem with a bombing plot but no one to sell it to.

According to the attorney, Salem let the plot that he hatched go forward and the World Trade Center was bombed so that he could get money and publicity. The attorney says that within 48 hours of the bombing, the FBI requested Salem to help them solve the case. Salem quickly pointed the fingers at the defendants, all followers of Sheik Rahman.

So, who did it? From the above point of view, Salem constructed the bomb plot with those whom he subsequently set up. The U.S. government and its FBI were innocent bystanders who failed to prevent the carnage due to their unwillingness to take Salem's claims seriously, despite his close collaboration with Bureau agents for the better part of a year.

The other scenario looks like this: Informant Salem organized the bomb plot with the "supervision" of the FBI and the District Attorney as part of a classic entrapment setup. He befriended certain individuals, possibly some of the defendants, convinced them that his intentions to bomb the World Trade Center were sincere, and convinced them to get involved. The bomb goes off. Greedy Salem, with his ears still ringing, sells out his accomplices while attempting to sell more information to the Bureau. In order to protect him and their relationship, the FBI sequesters Salem and utilizes him against the real target of the FBI, Sheik Rahman.

In one of the taped conversations between Salem and "Special Agent" John Anticev, Salem refers to him and the Bureau's involvement in making the bomb that blew up the World Trade Center. As Salem is pressing for money while emphasizing his value as a Bureau asset, the conversation moves in and out of references to the bombing and the FBI's knowledge of the bomb making:

FBI: But ah basically nothing has changed. I'm just telling you for my own sake that nothing, that this isn't a salary but you got paid regularly for good information. I mean the expenses were a little bit out of the ordinary and it was really questioned. Don't tell Nancy I told you this. (Nancy Floyd is another FBI agent who worked with Salem in his informant capacity. The second tape obtained by the SHADOW is of a telephone conversation between Salem and Floyd -Ed.)

SALEM: Well, I have to tell her of course.
FBI: Well then, if you have to, you have to.

SALEM: Yeah, I mean because the lady was being honest and I was being honest and everything was submitted with receipts and now it's questionable.
FBI: It's not questionable, it's like a little out of the' ordinary.

SALEM: Okay. I don't think it was. If that what you think guys, fine, but I don't think that because we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the DA and we was all informed about it and we know what the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant. What a wonderful great case! And then he put his head in the sand I said "Oh, no, no, that's not true, he is son of a *****." (Deep breath) Okay. It's built with a different way in another place and that's it.

FBI: No, don't make any rash decisions. I'm just trying to be as honest with you as I can.
SALEM: Of course, I appreciate that.

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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE BAN KATHAKSUNG??? :mad:

All that TROLL does is "drive by CT posting", but never engages in discussions!
 
"engages in discussions"

Ok, can you rebut
or even address any of the issues presented in the alleged
"drive_by_posting"

or?

A!
bust the emperor
for indecent exposure!
 
"engages in discussions"

Ok, can you rebut
or even address any of the issues presented in the alleged
"drive_by_posting"

All you CT's ever do is ask questions and make accusations. No matter how many questions get answered, you just ask more and even repeat the same ones. No matter how many accusations are rebuffed, you just make more accusations and even repeat the same ones.... Truly, there is no discussion:

n0spam4me HAS NO CLOTHES!
kathaksung HAS NO CLOTHES!
 
So,
....... ALL of the points and issues raised in posts 78,79,80 of this thread,
have been addressed to your satisfaction and there is no need at all for any further discussion....

IZATSO?


or?


Whatever .....


Who did burn down the Reichstag? ..... or does anybody care?
 
So,
Who did burn down the Reichstag? ..... or does anybody care?

The Nazi's burnt down the German Reichstag on February 27, 1933.

The article by Lectric Law and presented in Shadow was blaming COMMUNISTS for the WTC bombings but all that had to be carefully edited OUT of Kath's post.

n0spam4me HAS NO CLOTHES! He's part of the Military Industrial Complex!
 
I voted all of the above because of a plain and simple fact that seems to skipped over by everyone. Not only is there a huge volume of information pointing to questionable investigation practices concerning the entire happening, but the fact that so much will remain a mystery concerning the entire day in it self is worrying. Anyone checking on just the pentagon attacks will find that even pilots association points out blatant holes in theories put up by the 9/11 commision as well as the entire commisions questionable make-up with-in itself.

Unfortuanlly the truth about 9/11 in its entireity will remain a mystery just like alien death rays because the media's ignorance, government's denial of evidence that would certainly clear up all the "supposed" bogus conspiracies theories.. and the constant refusal to use critcal thinking in regards to a subject in which it is MOST imperative.

Honestly... whens the last time you just accept the reasoning given purely by the media and the government... ... exactly....

Think what you like... because in the end.. your opoion doesn't matter because the government and media has decided for you.
 
Just to give a small understanding into the incoherhant view points taken by the governments stand on 9/11.. check out http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/

The fact remains that anyone.. anyone doing a bit of research finds more.. and then even more holes in the presumed theories given about 9/11 .. and considering its giant signifance in the 21st century.. its broad scope in changing legislation , foreign policy and American views shouldn't we be absloutely sure of our convictions before we just start blowing people out of the water? If even a small possiblity exsists that our government is involved or any other orginaztion... shouldn't that thought in itself which would constitue a GRAND upheavel in our paradigm, be completely and utterly ruled out by undeniable facts of truth?
 
I tell you what.. reading further on with all the posts I guess it will be needed to site an exact case .. So to point out what the pilots have to say which in the same time pointing out some info I aqquired while serving in the Navy also.

As I'm not about to go into complete and utter detail when it concerns this case.. chekcing back on the above website I provided will show their view point.. this is just a shortened version.

Pilots for 9/11 truth obtained the black-box of the airplane that crashed into the pentagon thru freedom of information act.. upon examining it they notice that the plane spent an extra 20 mins in the air doing a cicular manuveur over the pentagon airspace to line up its trajectory for hitting the pentagon...

The answers that have to follow are this... Why would terroists spend an extra 20 mins in the air to phyiscally line up the plane with any side of the pentagon... there are 4 military air bases literally within 10 mins flighttime to pentagon airspace... out of all these air-bases it can be assumed that at least 1 .. AT least 1 had planes on stand-by with air to air missles. As a former passive-rader operator it was my job to know the in's and outs of all missles and their capablities.. and I can tell you for a fact that air to air missles aboard any fighter jet today typically have OTH targetting that will range roughly 30miles and sometimes farther which can garunentees a figther upon take-off needs only raise to about 1000 to 2000 feet before launching. The flights that hit the WTC came nearly 20 mins before the pentagon. Air traffic controller procedure immeditailly upon having an aircraft squak 7600 or stop transmitting is to contact the NORAD where they are supposed to have figther escort given to that flight immeditally. (( I also cross trained as an ATC an remeber reading that one also ))
So why is it.. that our ATC's were blatantly ignored by the military excpically after seeing the WTC hit by 2 aircraft when they reported flight 800 as being another possible hijacked aircraft when they are warned nearly 20 mins ahead of time (( and possibly more )) do absoultely nothing?
And .. why wouldn't the hijackers.. knowing full well that they are in air-space guarded by so many military installations.. proceed with a cicular flight-path towards the pentagon when wasting preoius time could equate to them being blown out of the sky?

The other thing that should be noted.. but is by far less signifacant is that the side the plane hit on the pentagon was considered the accounting department on military budgets and was recently renvoated to increase it's stuctural intgreity incase of attack.. also Rumsfield was in congress a day before 9/11 explaning why billions of dollars had come up missing in military spending budgets . I am trying to find more public articles to support the renovations of the pentagon but this might help a little bit. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911_pentagon_renovations.html
BTW here is a news article on Rumsfields admission that 2.3 trillion dollars can up missing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpWqdPMjmo

I'm trying to find exactly where the ENTIRE cspan media clip of that day where rumsfield gives his speech.

Again.. all that is obvoiusly hear-say.. but provides an intresting connection with all that is going on. Some will point this out as skewing the real fact of trying to obtain what happened on 9/11 but I present you this... if other citations are to be made that insiders may possibly be involved.. what could possibly be a better motive then to annihalate the accounting of 2.3 trillion dollars mysterious disappearing? Preventing any kind of investigation further into it?
 
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"engages in discussions"

Ok, can you rebut
or even address any of the issues presented in the alleged
"drive_by_posting"

All of that morons "points" have been addressed, and utterly debunked, repeatedly, so he/she/it just keeps coming back with more and more outrageous BS in the hopes of leading us all around by our little nose rings.
 
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