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Would you vote for this candidate?

Discussion in 'Elections & Political Parties' started by JRB0911, Oct 4, 2008.


Would you vote this candidate?

Poll closed Oct 11, 2008.
  1. Yes.

  2. No.

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  1. JRB0911

    JRB0911 New Member

    Oct 4, 2008
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    Would you vote for this candidate? (you pick the office)
    Would you vote for a person who made mistakes as a young adult. But went on to become a better person and ran for office.
    Please be honest. Heres the future candidates background.

    Basic information: Candidate is a Republican, 35 years of age. Running for elected office.

    Work history: U.S. Army 6 Yrs. (2 tours in Iraq.)
    U.S. Navy 6 Yrs. (2 Sea Deployments.)

    Has some college. (Will finish soon)

    Criminal background:
    All these charges happened as an adult at the age of 25 yrs.
    These charges are one incedent. (same day)
    1 simple tresspassing (charged as adult)
    1 disturbing the peace charge (charged as adult)
    1 public intox charge (charged as adult)

    Here is where the candidate stands on issues.......

    International Issues:
    Energy & Oil: We should be investing in alternative energy to free ourselves from foreign dependence.
    Foreign Policy: I support the war on terrorism, We should be pulling out of Iraq as soon as the goverment and military is stable. I would like our country to lead the way in improvements for the global enviorment. We should improve on human rights for all nations. Finally, improve relations in the far middle east.
    Free Trade: I believe we should make it so that free trade favors our economy verses our neighbor's economy.
    Homeland Security: DHS plays a vital role in todays "War on terrorism".
    Immigration: I believe in open borders with strict regulations governing immigration. I don't believe in amnesty for illegal aliens.
    War & Peace: I believe in a world of peace and deplomacy.

    Domestic Issues:
    Armed Forces: I support our troops! I support a well maintained, well trained, military. We should always give our troops what they need to accomplish their mission. I believe in pay raises and good healthcare for the military members and their families.
    Civil Rights: I support the U.S. Constitution and "Bill of Rights". I condone same-sex marraige or civil unions.
    Crime: I believe in more cops on the streets and harsher sentences for more serious crimes. I beleive petty criminals should be given reduced sentences for behavior & anger managemet improvement courses.
    Drugs: We lost the "War on Drugs", We need a new strategy.
    I will employ a new plan of action for taking down drug cartels.
    Employment: I will stand behind implementing new goverment programs, and improving existing goverment programs to make college more affordable for our children.I will implement means to learn a new trade or skill for adults, assisted by goverment financing. I will bring new jobs to our economy. I will lower the over all commmercial tax from 35% to 20%. This will, along with other initiatives, will bring jobs back to the U.S.A.
    Environmental: I believe in preserving our nation's landmarks, forest, and parks. I believe in tougher regulations for a cleaner environment.
    Goverment: (Federal/State/Local) I support small goverment at all levels. I also believe the goverment should stay out of peoples lives and business.
    Gun Control: I believe in and support the second ammendent!
    Terrorism: I don't believe in the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act, but I believe in the war on terrorism.
    Veterans: I support, and will sign into law, any legislation that will benefit our Hereo's.

    Economic Issues:
    Budget: I know at the current tax levels, we could pay for all these programs I propose, and still balance the budget. balancing the budget would be my main priority.
    Economy: I'm concerned the economy is in turmoil, We would need to implement stronger regulations and increase goverment oversight. I don't support bailing out wall street or corporations.
    Goverment Reform: We need to make the goverment accountable for it's own actions. The goverment must step up and assume responsibility for its role.
    Infastructure: We need to make major improvements to our infrastructure.
    Social Security: I believe in Social Security, I believe in a 25% pay raise for Social Security recipients, along with fair health coverage and FREE prescriptions.
    Taxes & Tax Reform: Once we balance the budget, I would recommend tax rebates for college students. Tax reform would needed to be looked into.
    Technology: I believe investing in technology for all areas, private or public funded.
    Unemployment: I will create new jobs through lower business taxes.
    Welfare & Poverty: I believe in welfare on a very limited basis. I would overhaul the program and make it harder to qualify.

    Social Issues:
    Abortion: I Believe its the womans right to choose.
    Corporations: More oversight and stricter regulations on cooperations.
    Education: I stand behind a good education. I support more qualified teachers for our schools. We would pay teachers more, but in-return we ask for better qualified teacher. I will make college more affordable.
    Family & Children: I'm very family oriented, I support all family programs that aid in everyday family life.
    Healthcare: I support healthcare insurance for those who have none.
    Children would be automaticly covered by the goverment. Working adults would be insured by employer, and seniors would be covered by medicare/medicaid. If you are capable of working and agree not to, you will have NO health insurance.
    Principles & Values: If you have a question in this department............please let me know.

    I am not here to play games, I am here to help take back our country!
    I don't have the answer for everything, but with your help we can figure our way out of this mess. I'm in favor of any new ideas you, as a citizen, may have.

    If you have any questions at all, please feel free to ask me!

    Thank you for your time..................
  2. vyo476

    vyo476 Well-Known Member

    Apr 10, 2007
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    Job descriptions?

    Pursuing a degree in what? And when you say "will finish soon," are we talking an Associate's or Bachelor's degree?

    Nothing too heinous. Sounds like there's a story there, which might be beneficial to hear.

    Sounds good.

    So in other words...upholding the status quo. The last two, about human rights and relations with the "far middle east" (Iran?), you'll need to go into more detail on. How do you intend to accomplish these things? What are your specific goals?

    Once again, how?

    Uh...yeah, sure does. Was this just a statement of fact or what?

    Which leaves one big, gaping question: what is to be done with the millions of illegal immigrants who are already here?

    If you're thinking about running for office, you might want to start believing in a word of "spell checker." I'm trying to be as objective as possible, but it's hard to take seriously someone who misspells "diplomacy."

    Sounds good. It doesn't take anything for people to say, "I support our troops!" but you've provided enough substance here that I believe it.

    "Or" civil unions?

    You might run into some trouble competing with the wide definition of "more serious crimes." Otherwise, sounds decent.

    Disagree. Legalization of marijuana is the best course of action today, both socially and economically. The rest of it (cocaine, heroin, etc.)? I'd say let's see how the first rash of legalizations go before we start allowing the harder stuff.

    I like the sound of this. You might find the implementation, however, to be...tricky.


    Good luck with that, sounds like your range of programs is going to need some serious funding.

    So do I, but I also take issue with the idea that we should just let everyone have guns.

    Would you care to enumerate which sections of the PATRIOT Act you dislike?

    That's "heroes." You might want to be careful how you word things, too. While I fully support the idea of taking care of our veterans, I'm not too crazy about the idea of handing them a blank check, which is in essence what your statement here does.

    Remember, in politics how you word things is just as important as what you're trying to say.
  3. vyo476

    vyo476 Well-Known Member

    Apr 10, 2007
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    You might manage that if you cut out a whole bunch of other programs that already exist. What gets chopped?

    It would behoove you to seek counsel on economics. I'm not sure who is right and who isn't, but I've heard some pretty compelling arguments that deregulation was not the cause of the present financial crisis. Like I said, I don't know - I'm not an economics expert.

    How do you envision that working?

    In what areas?

    So much for believing in small government and keeping the government out of peoples' business. Tell me, how do you plan to verify that people are recieving the correct Social Security benefits while still keeping the government out of peoples' lives, like you said you would above?

    Being a college student myself, I love the idea of tax rebates for college students. Maybe then I could afford more than a bowl of Ramen every other day.

    That said, I don't see your large, sweeping program ideas being financed as easily as you think they will, so I doubt such rebates would be feasible.

    We already do that. You've heard of NASA, yes?

    You're losing tax revenue fast.

    Once again with the sticking the nose of government into peoples' lives. Be careful what you promise.

    How, then, do you respond to the charge that even a fetus is, biologically speaking, a human life, and that allowing the murder of those human lives creates a very, very unfortunate dichotomy: That it is okay to murder these people but not okay to murder these people?

    More oversight, stricter regulations, but as you mentioned earlier a lower business tax in order to encourage growth. Huh. That sounds an awful lot like the National Socialist economic model.

    Uh, you're just going to "ask"? While talking about subsidizing colleges, put special emphasis on degrees in education. Two other necessary factors: security for inner city schools and community outreach programs to try and calm down "hotspots" - areas that good teachers don't want to go to because of how dangerous the neighborhoods and how apathetic the students are.

    Careful, those of us without families might start feeling like we're being penalized for not breeding - which is ridiculous in a country experiencing a population crunch.

    Horrible idea. Behind terminal and progressive diseases, childcare is the second most specialized form of medical care out there. Now I like socialized medicine in so far as it provides medical care to those without it, but it has been proven to generate rather long waiting lines. In more specialized areas, the waits would be even longer. See the problem?

    Oh, and where's the money coming from?

    You're going to require adults be ensured by their employers?

    Is there any part of business you don't want to stick your hands into?

    1. Start using spell checker. We usually try not to nitpick posters about their spelling and grammatical habits, but if you're even considering public office you need to come across better.

    2. Study up on economics. You're talking here about public oversight of private business on a level never before seen in this country. That alone raises alarm bells.

    3. Reconsider your ideas on taxes. I don't see there being any way you could fund all of that stuff using "present levels of taxation," seeing as the "present levels of taxation" aren't even enough to cover the programs we already have running.
  4. pocketfullofshells

    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

    Jan 17, 2008
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    land of 10,000 lakes and 2 senators again

    For what office? I mean for a local office maybe, but high office and no college degree even? not likely.

    Also you sure your a Republican? Dont seem like one , not that thats a bad thing.
  5. Vyddo

    Vyddo Active Member

    Sep 26, 2008
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    Everyone's in favor of this, you'd have to propose a means of accomplishing the end for this to mean anything.

    pretty much things everyone would approve of, the debate is in how to do it and minus that info these are pretty meaningless.

    Again, very complicated issue and very broad statements..

    There would be a lot of opposition to this.

    Sounds promising, but again would need to see more specifics.

    It's like saying, I support giving americans 10,000 dollars/mo.. most would agree, problem is in getting it done..

    I think this would receive severe resistance and the wording "make it harder to qualify" seems ominous. So, you don't want to help people who need it? Your saying that the current requirements for qualifying are to lax? I'd like to see you give alot of detail here as to why you think current requirements are insufficient, how you'd make it tougher to qualify, etc..

    The republican base is strongly pro life, this will hurt your base.. but I applaud you being willing to stand up for your personal beliefs although it will cost you politically.

    Except Welfare for families whom need it the most? *chuckles*

    All in all, you take base positions that almost anyone would agree with on many things without really giving idea's as to how to accomplish any particular objective..

    I rate this as Typical Politician, with a couple daring stripes of honesty.
  6. JRB0911

    JRB0911 New Member

    Oct 4, 2008
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    Thanks to everyone for their opinions and statements. I appreciate it very much! You all have been a big help!

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