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Yes, President Bush made many mistakes BUT

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by CONSERVERATIVETOO, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. CONSERVERATIVETOO

    CONSERVERATIVETOO New Member

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    President Bush made many mistakes, he allowed to many liberal policies to corrupt his agenda . The IRAQ War is a Noble cause . President Bush failed to have a program in place to secure Iraq after our FINE Military defeated Hussein so quickly. President Bush also made many errors by trying to treat Radical democrats as if they were concerned about America. These Leftist are as dangerous as any Foreign Power and cannot be trusted. All of this being said , the many errors by the Bush Administration does not call for Americans to vote into Power a Socialistic/Marxist which is the agenda Obama is advocating although he calls it "Change" . America was not founded on Socialism nor Marxism and his type of change will destroy America. So just sit down and THINK, use your good judgement and realize what is good for America is very good for YOU.Please REMEMBER JOE the PLUMBER has become a victim for simply asking Obama this question "You are going to raise my taxes , take my money and give it to those who pay no taxes"-- The Left wing Media tried to DESTROY JOE . They sent their trucks to his home to scare his kids and his wife . They search his past for mistakes . They lied about him after they could find nothing damaging in his past . This MEDIA REFLECTS the OBAMA AGENDA, it sounds like RUSSIA , China , Cuba , etc . IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT??? THINK!! before YOU VOTE!
     
  2. Sihouette

    Sihouette Active Member

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    Cheney runs the show. Bush just is the front man.

    They didn't make erratic mistakes, they had an agenda. But of course it looks much better to say someone made an "honest mistake" than it does to say "you were purposefully misled".

    The level of incompetance we'd have to accept not just one person but a group of GOP high-rankers has been surpassed long ago from realistic into never-never land. Instead now the explanation seems more likely to be wilfull deception masked as "massive incompetance". Having a dumb cowboy as the front for the operation was a stroke of Cheney pure genius. It is said that the best and strongest overlords use a stooge as a phasod while they work the real power from behind the curtain.

    By the way, where is Cheney these days? I hear he was in the hospital recently. Very surprising that leaked out. Maybe it's a plea for pity?

    They know what it means if the dems take the Oval Office and therefore have spared no effort making our candidate a "demon". That's another trick of covert power: demonize those who can unseat you.

    Basic stuff really...
     
  3. chestnut

    chestnut New Member

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    Capitalism build wealth. No other country on the planet has been as successful as the US. 200 Years of Capitalism is the reson. Remember Capitalism also means competition which is why we enjoy so much for so little.

    This si he reason why we are the country where everyone wants to move to. Do you see people trying to get into Russia, Cuba, Canada, France? Yeah right. Why do you supposed that is.

    If anyone on this forum actually beleives that we would be better off letting everyting in this country be equal, Jobs/ Salary / Healthcare, you should leave the US. and go where equality fo all is already setup and quit trying to force it here.

    And then, when you need an operation to save your life, beg to get back into this country to get your operation.... If you can make it hear before you die.
     
  4. Stalin

    Stalin Active Member

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    1) Cuba

    Some 100 low-income and minority students from the United States are enrolled in Havana’s Latin American Medical School. They and students from 28 other countries receive full scholarships from the Cuban Public Health Ministry. In return, they pledge to practice in underserved communities back home when they graduate. MEDICC aims to speed their way to these communities-in-need by offering:

    http://www.medicc.org/ns/index.php?p=4&s=28

    2) Russia

    Migrants keep coming to Russia despite the lack of farming lands and business opportunities. They do not arrive in large numbers as before, though. Migrants from the North Caucasus and Central Asia have been heading for Siberia in the last 3-4 years. National diasporas began to mushroom in the old Siberian towns and cities. According to the police, 84 238 foreign nationals have been registered in Ekaterinburg in the last 9 months. There is a colony of 300 thousand migrants officially registered in the city of Orenburg. Novosibirsk has 200 thousand migrants.

    http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/87/345/16441_immigrants.html

    3) China

    So far as we know, China is not an immigrant country. No law or regulations are set permitting immigration. A foreigner is only allowed to reside here for reasons of work, study, travel, or marriage over a certain period of time.

    Here we provide the following information for your reference:

    Long Term Green Card
    http://www.china.org.cn/english/Life/56804.htm

    New Visa Rules for Foreigners
    http://www.china.org.cn/english/Life/36683.htm

    A brief Introduction to Chinese Visa and the Procedure for Visa Application
    http://www.china.org.cn/english/Life/34355.htm

    4) Canada and France. You cannot be serious. Millions from all over the world want to get into both countries.

    Comrade Stalin
     
  5. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Yeah.....that's what we need.....more-o'-the-same..... from another Republican. :rolleyes:

    .....And, Ol' Joe appears to be one more "conservative"-fantasy. (Tell 'em, Turks!!!) :p
     
  6. Sihouette

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    A success eh? Really? Have you seen Wallstreet lately and projections for our financial future?

    Capitalism bred the ungodly union between the Bush's and Bin Ladens for oil profits brought from keeping us dependant on Bin Laden's nation for oil, while deals were cut (all in the name of capitalism) to make the Bush's and Bin Ladens very rich as the exchange for keeping the US dependant.

    As it turns out, capitalism has been the driving force that shoved many coffin nails in our great nations casket that the GOP has been busy building...all under the stars and stripes phasod of capitalism.

    The problem with capitalism is that it exists soley for profit and biggering...without morality. And we are where we are today exactly as a result of that idiologic dilemma. We aren't dealing with saints as practitioners of capitalism, we are dealing with flawed and essentially greedy humans...a cocktail for disaster...and we're living it right now.

    Capitalism wed to socialism with a democratic core is the most perfect union I can think of. Socialist ideals keep the populace healthy that in turn drive industry with happy, well-adjusted workers. Maybe the top CEOs can only afford two yachts instead of twenty-two. But that's a sacrafice the majority is willing to make.
    :rolleyes:
     
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    Andy Well-Known Member

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    Zero real evidence, no support, doesn't address the points made, empty opinion pieces... yup typical clueless lefty post.
     
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    The mistakes Bush made were policies from his liberal RINO side. Solution? Install the most liberal president since FDR.
     
  9. GenSeneca

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    Thanks Sil for being Honest... Would you mind telling us whether or not you think Obama is a Socialist??
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    Everyone who thought I was a barking moonbat for calling these people Socialists... Where are you now?
     
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    OH PLEEEEEASE!

    Joe the plumber is a victim?????:confused:

    Why not just cut all the bull about Bush being noble when he's been a complete and utter moron an while you're at it just admit Joe the plumber is not a plumber, only makes 40K per year, his bosses business (which isn't a plumbing business) isn't for sale and even it doesn't make 250K per year in profits!

    And just to be honest why not also admit what even Joe the non-plumber admitted on a national morning show... Senator Obama's plan would be better for his personal situation.

    There's nothing "LEFT WING MEDIA DESTROYING" about the media doing its job and fact checking a source... you're just upset because this big McCain set up blew up in their face as a big bold face lie all the way around.:eek:
     
  11. Sihouette

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    No...lol..no.
    "These people" eh? :rolleyes:

    Obama is far more conservative when it comes to socialism than I am. I am reailsitic though. I don't want pure socialism any more than I want pure capitalism. I think a balance of both makes a free society a much more economically healthy place and a happy place to live.

    Pure any type of government has no place with complex human behavior.
     
  12. GenSeneca

    GenSeneca Well-Known Member

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    You sure do stick to the talking points in order to avoid the issue: Obama wants to "spread the wealth around" - Defend that as being anything other than a Socialist policy.

    You guys are the ones upset because Joe asked your messiah a question and Obama admitted to pushing Socialist policy - OH NO!!!! Must... Destroy... Joe...

    the media doing its job and fact checking a source...

    Something they have FAILED to do in areas where the answer hurts Obama.

    Obama's plan would be better for my personal position too!!! THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT!!!

    I will make out very well under Obama, but its NOT thanks to him... its thanks to the people he TOOK money from to "provide" for me. I don't want to ride anyone's coattails and I DON'T want anyone riding mine...

    I realize thats a difficult concept for you Socialists... earn your own wealth and keep your own wealth. You guys would much rather let SOMEONE ELSE earn that wealth and have an elected official, like your messiah, come along and take that wealth... in order to spread it around.

    Didn't you say you were a Coach of some sort? Do you run your teams the same way Obama wants to run the country? Somehow I think not... for some reason I think you want your teams to be at their best and in order to do that... you don't punish your best athletes to even out your players, you encourage the best of them to do even better - beacuse you KNOW at your core that it takes exceptional INDIVIDUALS to make an exceptional team. In fact... I bet you have to CUT people from your teams who DON'T achieve the level of ability necessary to remain on the field.

    Where's your Socialist Dogma in Sports?
     
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    That's like saying you think your body should have a balance between healthy cells (Capitalism) and Cancerous cells (Socialism). Its utter nonsense. Please... tell me what GOOD does socialism provide for the Country?

    Our founders (Do you even know who they were?) advocated for PURE Capitalism as the ONLY moral, ethical and compatible form of government to keep the people of the nation free from tyranny. Of course, they don't teach that in school anymore... Now a days, people like yourself, think that Europe is the cats meow and drool over the prospect of turning America into France.
     
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    Whew! Quite the blanket-response, there. :rolleyes:

    At least you avoided any specifics. Wouldn't want you to kick-in the ol' gray-matter, there, and risk a migraine.
     
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    Whew!! Can you imagine that....that he'd (even) suggest that everyone (besides the 1%ers) get to participate in our economy!!!! :eek:
     
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