steveox
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If you don't know politics then DONT VOTE! STAY HOME! That's why we need a new voting laws to stop stupid people from voting.
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Yes, The American voters are stupid
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If you don't know politics then DONT VOTE! STAY HOME! That's why we need a new voting laws to stop stupid people from voting.
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Just return to the original laws. no need for new ones.
steveox
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No we need to add restrictions. Just like getting your drivers license. And how do you become a lawyer? You take the bar exam,If you pass it then you get a law license.
perhaps if you are clever enough to have become a male land owner you are smart enough?
steveox
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No just the ones who don't serve in the military,dont get an education,dont get a job or get welfare and food stamps cant vote
Hang all the thieving capitalists and take back the swag and you'll have no problems. Voters everywhere are 'stupid' because their own needs are totally ignored by the grovelling pols, as we all know, and political discussion is about emotional bullshit.
Hang all the thieving capitalists and take back the swag and you'll have no problems. Voters everywhere are 'stupid' because their own needs are totally ignored by the grovelling pols, as we all know, and political discussion is about emotional bullshit.
Gipper
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You see the capitalists as a problem, but fail to see the bigger problem is government imposed tyranny. Why?
You also fail to comprehend that the power elite is comprised of leading capitalists and government officals/leaders. They work in tandem to control the rest of us. So, why are you only proposing the hanging of capitalists, while ignoring they much greater and more powerful evil....GOVERNMENT?
The government is just the central committee of the ruling class, in my view. What power have officials without the people behind them? This is an Eighteenth-Century misunderstanding, comprehensible when the officials were royal, but just an ancestral piety nowadays.
The government is just the central committee of the ruling class, in my view. What power have officials without the people behind them? This is an Eighteenth-Century misunderstanding, comprehensible when the officials were royal, but just an ancestral piety nowadays.
Gipper
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I think you have a misconception of government. At least as it relates to the kind we are experiencing today. The people in the US and UK do not have much choice when it comes to their government. The power elite make sure of that. For example, there is little difference in the US between the Rs and Ds. I believe Bush and Obama have governed much the same. I do not believe John Kerry, McCain, or Romney would have been any different had they been elected. The political parties are one. I suspect it is much the same in the UK.
In the US, we have a government that is unaccountable to the people. It is out of control and essentially can do whatever it wishes without consequences. As such, the people have little influence on it. We can elect an R or a D, but the result is always the same...the power elite gains more power and wealth.
The power government has is far greater on the individual, than the power of the capitalist. The capitalist can't imprison or execute the individual. Government can.
Well I agree with all of that except the last bit: the government is just a collection of the capitalists' domestic servants, so it does as its told.
Gipper
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I do not see how you can agree with my previous post, yet disagree with the last bit. Can you please explain?
If the people have no real choices in a democracy, how is that they are servants of government?
How is it that capitalism is the problem, when both the US and UK are not following the main tenants of capitalism?
iolo likes to tell us that socialism must be only viewed as a textbook definition that has never existed as such. now there ISthat textbook definition though. gip you are doing a similar thing the significant difference being that there has been capitalism in the past even if largly no longer exists.
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Gipper
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We did have REAL capitalism once. This resulted in making America the freest most wealthy nation the world has ever known. It resulted in reducing poverty and generating a huge middle class, which had never existed before in human history. We also had rule of law that limited corruption and fraud... and limited government. Today we do not have the rule of law...we have rule by elites. This has bastardized our economy and politics so that we no longer have capitalism or limited government.
