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One other point, Chip.  If you want to go anywhere with this POV, then like it or not, and apparently you do not like it, me and lots of people similar to me are the very people you need to persuade, because we are the supporters of abortion who vote against your views, and if you can get anywhere with us, your view will carry the day.  Based on what I have seen so far, you ar not headed in that direction.


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