Mr. Shaman
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Yeah like all leftist hypocrites, he's attacking capitalism while engaged in capitalism. Dumb as hell, just like your posts Shaman.
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2, Capitalism, and the Bull that these companies do, are not the same. Last I checked ng theer claimed to be a commie. Maybe its you who is the one who is a Hypocrit, attacking him for a movie, about a issue you actuly agree with him on..the bail outs.
Um... a bailout isn't capitalism. That's socialism. When the government gives tax money to a corporations, it can't be Capitalism because that requires the risk be on the private company, not the government. If the government assumes the risk, like in a bailout, that's socialism.
If Micheal Moron had any intellectually honesty, or any intelligence at all, the movie would be called "Socialism" and he'd have the exact same intro, only talking about how great it was government was giving away our tax money.
Instead, he completely lies, and implies that the bailouts were capitalism.
If anyone is being a hypocrite, it's Micheal Moron. He is constantly in favor of government running business. He should be more in favor of bailouts than anyone according to his own expressed views in support of socialism.
Well if we go down that road with you then obviously ALL TAX BREAKS, TAX SHELTERS AND TAX LOOPHOLES for business is CORPORATE WELFARE (socialism) and must be stopped immediately.
But it's not considered socialism because you do these give aways to produce a certain desired public effect.
The truth is neither 100% pure Capitalism is good nor is 100% Socialism. 100%unregulated Capitalism brings us Robber Barron days almost like Nobles & Serfs in the Feudal System... and 100% Socialism slows competition & innovation.
But a mix works better. A regulated Capitalist system along with government programs that fills the gaps that a society needs.
Finland, Norway, Sweden, France, Denmark, Germany, Switzerland, Netherlands, Belgium, etc. All "failed"?Every truly socialist program has failed or is failing.
Finland, Norway, Sweden, France, Denmark, Germany, Switzerland, Netherlands, Belgium, etc. All "failed"?
I don't disagree that we got shafted, but instead of letting the facts lead him to the conclusion, he has made a conclusion and will work the facts to prove his point.
If anyone is being a hypocrite, it's Micheal Moron. He is constantly in favor of government running business. He should be more in favor of bailouts than anyone according to his own expressed views in support of socialism.
Well if we go down that road with you then obviously ALL TAX BREAKS, TAX SHELTERS AND TAX LOOPHOLES for business is CORPORATE WELFARE (socialism) and must be stopped immediately.
But it's not considered socialism because you do these give aways to produce a certain desired public effect.
You have been sipping the KoolAid...realize you had to say "unregulated" capitalism. Of course there needs to be regulation since it is impossible to have a true "free market", but socialism is a phantom promise.
There is no such thing as corporate socialism. When you talk about corporate shelters and loopholes it is nothing more than manipulation of economic gains for the favored few. I agree let's eliminate corporate tax breaks. A matter of fact, let's stop corporate tax. Corporate tax is just a mirage anyway. It's passed through to the customer and it ends up hurting the people who can afford it the least.
Socialism is when you take property and wealth from some and distribute it to others. Every truly socialist program has failed or is failing. Don't confuse socialist programs with a build out of infrastructure or military defense. These are a very different because they are providing a service for a cost instead of redistributing services and $ from one individual to others.
I'M still tryin' to figure-out all o' those Republicans who campaigned against Throwing Money At All Of Our Problems, right before The Idiot Son threw all o' that ca$h at the banks....with zero-stipulations.
I guess that'd make that effort a......Gift?