Calif. Muslim students guilty of disrupting speech

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SANTA ANA, Calif. — A jury convicted 10 Muslim students Friday of disrupting a talk by the Israeli ambassador on a university campus in a case that has stoked an intense debate about free speech....

http://www.azcentral.com/news/artic...-muslims-guilty-disrupting-israelis-talk.html

Is there some reason why anyone thinks that their constitution rights don't end where mine begin?

If not a violation of free speech, the actions of these students was shameful and rude, and I'm willing to bet would NOT have been tolerated in any Muslim country.

Is the idea to be a productive American in a country that offers more legal and social freedoms than any country in the M.E., or to "re-define" social and legal rules?
 
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http://www.azcentral.com/news/artic...-muslims-guilty-disrupting-israelis-talk.html

Is there some reason why anyone thinks that their constitution rights don't end where mine begin?

If not a violation of free speech, the actions of these students was shameful and rude, and I'm willing to bet would NOT have been tolerated in any Muslim country.

Is the idea to be a productive American in a country that offers more legal and social freedoms than any country in the M.E., or to "re-define" social and legal rules?


Totally agree. . .whether it is pro-Muslims goons, or tea party goons!

In an effort to destroy health-care reform, the right sends goons to disrupt town meetings on the subject. Many of the goons come from out of the area, and are carefully coached on what to yell, etc.


August 4, 2009
THOSE WHO CANNOT WIN A DEBATE TRY TO SHUT THE DEBATE DOWN.... If you put aside civility, decency, American political traditions, and intellectual honesty, the right-wing harassment strategy makes quite a bit of sense. It's a straightforward idea -- corporate interests, which have a financial stake in killing health care reform, organize far-right fanatics to disrupt public events and discussions, and create the appearance of widespread opposition.

It makes sense, of course, because the lobbyists and their unhinged activists have very little to lose. Some lawmakers might feel intimidated enough to balk at reform. Some reporters might tell the public that there's genuine outrage at the idea of reform, and neglect to mention that these enraged mobs are manufactured p.r. stunts.

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Nevertheless, here we are.

The truth of all three meetings -- in Delaware, in Texas and in Philly -- is that there were probably at least as many supporters of the Obama administration in the room as there were opponents. That is almost certainly the case when considering the congressional districts as a whole of Mike Castle and Lloyd Doggett, as well as the state of Pennsylvania (and certainly the city of Philadelphia). But it's not hard for an angry few to derail a meeting, especially when they're so much more interested in confrontation than conversation.

In addition to the disrupting these three meetings, protesters have surrounded Rep. Tim Bishop, D-N.Y., forcing him to rely on a police escort to escape to his car. They've also hung Rep. Frank Kratovil, D-Md., in effigy. A leaked memo from a volunteer with conservative group FreedomWorks entitled "Rocking the Town Halls -- Best Practices" -- advises exactly this sort of behavior. (The man listed as author, Frank MacGuffie, denies having written the memo on behalf of FreedomWorks.) The memo tells protesters to spread out to appear more numerous than they are and maximize disruption, reminding them, "Try To 'Rattle Him,' Not Have An Intelligent Debate."



Yep, we have right-wing groups actively and explicitly encouraging fanatics and mobs to avoid having an intelligent debate.

It's going to be a long August.

--washingtonmonthly.com


URL: http://able2know.org/topic/134966-1
 
Totally agree. . .whether it is pro-Muslims goons, or tea party goons

You left out the pro-Obama/democrat goons. The Panthers who got away with disrupting/trying to intimidate VOTERS expressing their rights ...

THIS POST, however, was about another specific group of people who are more concerned about somewhere else, and don't seem to not understand that the day of special interest groups holding the rest of the population hostage is hopefully over, in America at least.
 
You left out the pro-Obama/democrat goons. The Panthers who got away with disrupting/trying to intimidate VOTERS expressing their rights ...

THIS POST, however, was about another specific group of people who are more concerned about somewhere else, and don't seem to not understand that the day of special interest groups holding the rest of the population hostage is hopefully over, in America at least.

Would you please communicate that hope to the GOP?
I do hope they will listen and that minorities holding the majority hostage will be a story of the past.
 
minorities holding the majority hostage


The sentence said "Special Interest". that is NOT simply minorities. It is the unions, and any other group who is only concerned about what THEY want out of America, and call anyone who doesn't care about their specific concern a "hater", or "Unamerican".
 
The sentence said "Special Interest". that is NOT simply minorities. It is the unions, and any other group who is only concerned about what THEY want out of America, and call anyone who doesn't care about their specific concern a "hater", or "Unamerican".

Funny, I've heard the expression "Unamerican" and "Unpatriotic" used often by both the GOP and the tea party.

I do not see where there is much difference between blocking a vote and threatening to close down the government (Federal or State) whether it comes from the Unions or from the tea party!

It is still a minority holding a majority hostage.
 
Funny, I've heard the expression "Unamerican" and "Unpatriotic" used often by both the GOP and the tea party.

Funny, you always defend a wrong with another one. Is that the best you can do?

It is still a minority holding a majority hostage.

The Republican-controlled House approved a bill to fund the federal government Friday, but Democrats in the Senate have vowed to block it.

Yes it IS!
 
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