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Well written Popeye. I agree with much of what you say and you bellied up to the challenge laid down. I was apart of the thread that said utopia wont work, in my eyes it is not so much that we shouldnt strive for it, It is a matter of coming to realise that overwhelmingly, in our current society and history, utopia could be reached, but only at the expense of someone else. Which then defies utopia IMO.