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And the context in which they use it connotes surrender to God.

Really palerider !  do you honestly think they named their religion for peoples' submission to other people ?

I know you don't think that.




That logic will just not do ...either they want us all dead, or they don't want us all dead and they want to collect tribute from us.  

You cannot have it both ways -


There is a third choice of course and that is that they want us to get out of their area and mind our own business.





Yes I do find it interesting because it basically neutralizes your contention.   If they were taking hostages strategically as you insist, then US seamen would clearly be the tactical choice.




That is a particularly tricky waterway ...do a search and you will soon find that it is not typical.




Well, I don't think you watched the video because a day or two ago you were still insisting that Andalusia was a myth.

But in any case,

I certainly can see that you think I'm deluding myself about Islam, along with the authors of these sites.   The rest of your post to me is an elaboration of that.   And I don't want to carry on for the next two years with "my site says/ your site says"  ...

So,

I'm going to do just as I told you a few days ago.   I'm going to proceed as though everything written on Winn's site is true.


That puts us - for the sake of argument -  at a place where we have 1400 years of very aggressive and predatory behavior by Muslims.


Now let's go from there.

What do you want to do about it, and - coaxing this back to the thread topic - in what way is your strategy 'conservative' ?


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