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And the context in which they use it connotes surrender to God.
Really palerider ! do you honestly think they named their religion for peoples' submission to other people ?
I know you don't think that.

Read their holy books. There are over a thousand admonitions to submit to mohammed.

Their books say that if the infidel will pay the protection tax, he may keep his life and property. Now, are you willing to pay the tax?

Of course you would like that wouldn't you? Leave israel hanging? The fact is that what goes on there is our business in the geopolitical climate we live in today. The world has gotten so small that whatever goes on anywhere is everyone else's business.

Unless, of course, they don't want britan out of the picture. And of course they have taken hostages. Are you going to argue that they haven't?

Modern warships have GPS technology that will tell them where they are down to the square foot.

Andalusia in which muslims were tolerant rulers of spain is a myth. The constant uprisings and resulting massacres put the lie to that fantasy.

Look at the history and realize that their pattern in the past is identical to their pattern in the present. Realize that they are not just fighting over political borders, or natural resources, or trade imbalances, they are fighting because their religion demands they fight until no one is worshipped except allah.

As a conservative, I see two options. Submit or fight. I am not prepared to submit. I don't favor the limp wristed sort of fight we are in at present however that will go on for decades. I favor unleashing the full might of the US war machine on them wherever they are found. I favor fighting to win and when our enemy is on the ground with our foot on his throat begging for mercy, I favor delivering a merciful stroke.

This is us or them Lilly. They have made it so.

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<blockquote data-quote="palerider" data-source="post: 2802" data-attributes="member: 176">And the context in which they use it connotes surrender to God.Really palerider !&nbsp; do you honestly think they named their religion for peoples&#039; submission to other people ?I know you don&#039;t think that.</blockquote>Read their holy books.&nbsp; There are over a thousand admonitions to submit to mohammed.&nbsp; Their books say that if the infidel will pay the protection tax, he may keep his life and property.&nbsp; Now, are you willing to pay the tax?Of course you would like that wouldn&#039;t you?&nbsp; Leave israel hanging?&nbsp; The fact is that what goes on there is our business in the geopolitical climate we live in today.&nbsp; The world has gotten so small that whatever goes on anywhere is everyone else&#039;s business.Unless, of course, they don&#039;t want britan out of the picture.&nbsp; And of course they have taken hostages.&nbsp; Are you going to argue that they haven&#039;t?Modern warships have GPS technology that will tell them where they are down to the square foot.&nbsp; Andalusia in which muslims were tolerant rulers of spain is a myth.&nbsp; The constant uprisings and resulting massacres put the lie to that fantasy.Look at the history and realize that their pattern in the past is identical to their pattern in the present.&nbsp; Realize that they are not just fighting over political borders, or natural resources, or trade imbalances, they are fighting because their religion demands they fight until no one is worshipped except allah.&nbsp; As a conservative, I see two options.&nbsp; Submit or fight.&nbsp; I am not prepared to submit.&nbsp; I don&#039;t favor the limp wristed sort of fight we are in at present however that will go on for decades.&nbsp; I favor unleashing the full might of the US war machine on them wherever they are found.&nbsp; I favor fighting to win and when our enemy is on the ground with our foot on his throat begging for mercy, I favor delivering a merciful stroke.&nbsp; This is us or them Lilly.&nbsp; They have made it so.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="palerider, post: 2802, member: 176"] And the context in which they use it connotes surrender to God. Really palerider ! do you honestly think they named their religion for peoples' submission to other people ? I know you don't think that.[/quote] Read their holy books. There are over a thousand admonitions to submit to mohammed. Their books say that if the infidel will pay the protection tax, he may keep his life and property. Now, are you willing to pay the tax? Of course you would like that wouldn't you? Leave israel hanging? The fact is that what goes on there is our business in the geopolitical climate we live in today. The world has gotten so small that whatever goes on anywhere is everyone else's business. Unless, of course, they don't want britan out of the picture. And of course they have taken hostages. Are you going to argue that they haven't? Modern warships have GPS technology that will tell them where they are down to the square foot. Andalusia in which muslims were tolerant rulers of spain is a myth. The constant uprisings and resulting massacres put the lie to that fantasy. Look at the history and realize that their pattern in the past is identical to their pattern in the present. Realize that they are not just fighting over political borders, or natural resources, or trade imbalances, they are fighting because their religion demands they fight until no one is worshipped except allah. As a conservative, I see two options. Submit or fight. I am not prepared to submit. I don't favor the limp wristed sort of fight we are in at present however that will go on for decades. I favor unleashing the full might of the US war machine on them wherever they are found. I favor fighting to win and when our enemy is on the ground with our foot on his throat begging for mercy, I favor delivering a merciful stroke. This is us or them Lilly. They have made it so. [/QUOTE]

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