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We have not exerted political influence in their countries as you say. That is a blatant misstatement. Our government has exerted force in their countries.

Patently untrue. And ONCE AGAIN, we have exerted military force in non islamic nations and they have not resorted to terror campaigns which is really irrelavent in that islam's terror campaign has gone on unabated since the 10th century. They were engaging in terror long before columbus ever opened up this part of the world.

The problem is islam.

I understand that perfectly. Either way you slice it, islam is violent whether it be view in a religious context or political.

You yourself said that you don't favor leaving them to their own devices and now you are harping on me for rejecting that point as well? Leaving them alone does not serve any purpose. Europen countries that are not involved in the middle east conflict are experiencing terror attacks within their countries. The problem is islam.

Terror is the language of islam whether it is political or religious. Islam is the problem.

We did not invade that area. They are, and always have been the invaders. Learn the history.

Would you like a comprehensive list of terror attacks against american interests going back for decades before we ever invaded any part of the middle east? It exists. Islam has been attacking american interests since the late 50's and early 60's. The problem is islam.

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<blockquote data-quote="palerider" data-source="post: 3290" data-attributes="member: 176">We have not exerted political influence in their countries as you say.&nbsp; That is a blatant misstatement.&nbsp; Our government has exerted force in their countries.</blockquote>Patently untrue.&nbsp; And ONCE AGAIN, we have exerted military force in non islamic nations and they have not resorted to terror campaigns which is really irrelavent in that islam&#039;s terror campaign has gone on unabated since the 10th century.&nbsp; They were engaging in terror long before columbus ever opened up this part of the world.The problem is islam.I understand that perfectly.&nbsp; Either way you slice it, islam is violent whether it be view in a religious context or political.You yourself said that you don&#039;t favor leaving them to their own devices and now you are harping on me for rejecting that point as well?&nbsp; Leaving them alone does not serve any purpose.&nbsp; Europen countries that are not involved in the middle east conflict are experiencing terror attacks within their countries.&nbsp; The problem is islam.Terror is the language of islam whether it is political or religious.&nbsp; Islam is the problem.We did not invade that area.&nbsp; They are, and always have been the invaders.&nbsp; Learn the history.&nbsp; Would you like a comprehensive list of terror attacks against american interests going back for decades before we ever invaded any part of the middle east?&nbsp; It exists.&nbsp; Islam has been attacking american interests since the late 50&#039;s and early 60&#039;s.&nbsp; The problem is islam.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="palerider, post: 3290, member: 176"] We have not exerted political influence in their countries as you say. That is a blatant misstatement. Our government has exerted force in their countries.[/quote] Patently untrue. And ONCE AGAIN, we have exerted military force in non islamic nations and they have not resorted to terror campaigns which is really irrelavent in that islam's terror campaign has gone on unabated since the 10th century. They were engaging in terror long before columbus ever opened up this part of the world. The problem is islam. I understand that perfectly. Either way you slice it, islam is violent whether it be view in a religious context or political. You yourself said that you don't favor leaving them to their own devices and now you are harping on me for rejecting that point as well? Leaving them alone does not serve any purpose. Europen countries that are not involved in the middle east conflict are experiencing terror attacks within their countries. The problem is islam. Terror is the language of islam whether it is political or religious. Islam is the problem. We did not invade that area. They are, and always have been the invaders. Learn the history. Would you like a comprehensive list of terror attacks against american interests going back for decades before we ever invaded any part of the middle east? It exists. Islam has been attacking american interests since the late 50's and early 60's. The problem is islam. [/QUOTE]

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