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Let me remind you of what you wrote in post #259:


"When have Christians and Jews posed a "fatal threat" in the past? Other than the crusades, which was initiated by Muslims, I cannot think of a time when Jews and Christians have fought to completely destroy a people based on religious grounds."


I have shown you some of those times.

In each case, it was not a matter of just "destroying a city".   In the case of Joshua and the invading Israelites, it was a matter of killing "every man, woman, child, and animal"  ...as I already reminded you and if you don't believe me, take a look at a Bible.

Likewise,

the extermination of Cathars, Hugenots and various pagan groups was about eradicating people, not cities.





I just did compare them.

As a matter of fact, that is EXACTLY what Jews and Christians were doing in each of the examples I gave you; did you read the post ?





Says you, palerider, and the Jihad Watch site.   And any evidence to the contrary - from no matter how distinguished a scholar -  is dismissed as "romanticizing".  Yes, I've heard the whole routine by now.





Incorrect, on several levels.

First, Jews have lived among Arabs in the Middle East for centuries with no apparent rancor - which proves you wrong (so have a minority of Christians, Sikhs, and Hindus by the way).

Please realize,

The discordant relations began at the end of the 19th century when European Jews started migrating in significant numbers for the first time, under the leadership of Theodore Hertzl.

From there it got worse in the early 20th century, when Great Britain reneged on its agreements with Arabs about the area known as Palestine.

And of course the really punishing blow was in 1948.

Uhm,

How you can write the words "a peaceful Israel", presumably with a straight face, is beyond my comprehension.





Bin Laden's problem with the Saudi government was the blatant corruption -  for instance the way they conduct legal affairs, exonerating the guilty based on degree of wealth as opposed to using the same standards for all, as their religious ("Sharia") law would prescribe.

Dave,

The nations in the Middle East have every right to want us out of their affairs.

I don't know how neocons ever got the idea that the entire globe is theirs to prosecute or reward, but it is a disastrous idea and the blowback has already begun to burn.


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