Frump is mentally ill and has, at the very least, Munchausen syndrome by proxy

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President Donald Trump brought the stock market to the edge of a bear market (i.e., a sustained 20 percent drop) by imposing ridiculously high tariffs indiscriminately around the globe. That was so much fun that on Friday he shared a video on Truth Social titled “Trump is PURPOSELY Crashing the Market.” Then, on Wednesday, Trump put those tariffs on hold for 90 days for those countries willing to negotiate over trade barriers real or imagined (though Trump’s 10 percent “everybody tariff” will remain, and China will be punished for its defiance by raising its tariff to 125 percent). After Trump announced the tariff suspension on Truth Social, the S&P 500 recorded its third-biggest gain since World War II. Trump must have felt like Moses parting the Red Sea.

We can all be grateful that Trump was willing to undo, at least temporarily, the worst of the damage he inflicted. But it would be wrong to conclude, as Wall Street likely will, that there’s a “Trump put” after all. The “Trump put” is a fancy way of saying that whenever Trump does something that inadvertently sends stock prices down he can be counted on to reverse course and push them back up. (A put is an options contract that limits losses in a down market to a fixed amount.) The long-standing presumption of a Trump put is why 52 billionaires, including Timothy Mellon, Steve Wynn, and the Winklevoss twins, backed Trump in 2024.

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What Trump demonstrates here is not a strategy but a mental illness. I’m not the first to observe the striking resemblance between Trump’s governing style, particularly on tariffs, and Factitious Disorder Imposed on Another, more commonly known as Munchausen syndrome by proxy. It involves either pretending that a child is sick or inducing sickness so that you can luxuriate in restoring the child to health. (A wife who delights in sickening her husband with poisonous mushrooms, and then nursing him back to health, is an FDIA plot element in the 2017 film Phantom Thread.) According to the Cleveland Clinic, a common cause of FDIA is “wanting attention from others,” which of course fits Trump’s malignant narcissism like a glove. A shaky understanding of cause and effect, which the child psychologist Jean Piaget identified as transductive reasoning, would also seem consistent, and I’ve written previously that Trump has got that even though most people grow out of it at age 7.*

The only difficulty with diagnosing Trump with FDIA (apart from my not being, ahem, a psychologist) is that typically it’s motivated by love—or some deranged conception of love—and no malignant narcissist can ever love anyone but himself. In Trump’s case gratification comes from experiencing not a feeling of closeness in another person’s dependency but rather a feeling of schadenfreude in another person’s humiliation and surrender. Being Trump, our president said this out loud earlier this week at the Republican Congressional Committee Dinner. “I’m telling you, these countries are calling us up kissing my ass,” he said. “They are. They are dying to make a deal.”

The day before Trump let up on tariffs, he met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Trump’s foreign policy regarding Israel can be summed up as “Whatever Bibi wants, Bibi gets.” But not on tariffs. Netanyahu told Trump that in response to the 17 percent tariff Trump slapped on Israel he would eliminate “very quickly” all tariffs and trade deficits. But asked later whether he would lift the tariff against Israel, Trump replied: “Maybe not, maybe not.” This isn’t diplomacy. It’s pleasure in witnessing others grovel.


Add the narcissism, sociopathy, loose grip on reality and massively overcooked ego and you have a candidate for a long stretch in the bin...

comrade stalin
moscow
 
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President Donald Trump brought the stock market to the edge of a bear market (i.e., a sustained 20 percent drop) by imposing ridiculously high tariffs indiscriminately around the globe. That was so much fun that on Friday he shared a video on Truth Social titled “Trump is PURPOSELY Crashing the Market.” Then, on Wednesday, Trump put those tariffs on hold for 90 days for those countries willing to negotiate over trade barriers real or imagined (though Trump’s 10 percent “everybody tariff” will remain, and China will be punished for its defiance by raising its tariff to 125 percent). After Trump announced the tariff suspension on Truth Social, the S&P 500 recorded its third-biggest gain since World War II. Trump must have felt like Moses parting the Red Sea.

We can all be grateful that Trump was willing to undo, at least temporarily, the worst of the damage he inflicted. But it would be wrong to conclude, as Wall Street likely will, that there’s a “Trump put” after all. The “Trump put” is a fancy way of saying that whenever Trump does something that inadvertently sends stock prices down he can be counted on to reverse course and push them back up. (A put is an options contract that limits losses in a down market to a fixed amount.) The long-standing presumption of a Trump put is why 52 billionaires, including Timothy Mellon, Steve Wynn, and the Winklevoss twins, backed Trump in 2024.

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What Trump demonstrates here is not a strategy but a mental illness. I’m not the first to observe the striking resemblance between Trump’s governing style, particularly on tariffs, and Factitious Disorder Imposed on Another, more commonly known as Munchausen syndrome by proxy. It involves either pretending that a child is sick or inducing sickness so that you can luxuriate in restoring the child to health. (A wife who delights in sickening her husband with poisonous mushrooms, and then nursing him back to health, is an FDIA plot element in the 2017 film Phantom Thread.) According to the Cleveland Clinic, a common cause of FDIA is “wanting attention from others,” which of course fits Trump’s malignant narcissism like a glove. A shaky understanding of cause and effect, which the child psychologist Jean Piaget identified as transductive reasoning, would also seem consistent, and I’ve written previously that Trump has got that even though most people grow out of it at age 7.*

The only difficulty with diagnosing Trump with FDIA (apart from my not being, ahem, a psychologist) is that typically it’s motivated by love—or some deranged conception of love—and no malignant narcissist can ever love anyone but himself. In Trump’s case gratification comes from experiencing not a feeling of closeness in another person’s dependency but rather a feeling of schadenfreude in another person’s humiliation and surrender. Being Trump, our president said this out loud earlier this week at the Republican Congressional Committee Dinner. “I’m telling you, these countries are calling us up kissing my ass,” he said. “They are. They are dying to make a deal.”

The day before Trump let up on tariffs, he met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Trump’s foreign policy regarding Israel can be summed up as “Whatever Bibi wants, Bibi gets.” But not on tariffs. Netanyahu told Trump that in response to the 17 percent tariff Trump slapped on Israel he would eliminate “very quickly” all tariffs and trade deficits. But asked later whether he would lift the tariff against Israel, Trump replied: “Maybe not, maybe not.” This isn’t diplomacy. It’s pleasure in witnessing others grovel.


Add the narcissism, sociopathy, loose grip on reality and massively overcooked ego and you have a candidate for a long stretch in the bin...

comrade stalin
moscow
It is refreshing to see that someone is addressing the Donald's mental unhealth . thank you for starting a convesation about this important issue.
Yes,, he is psychopathic, nacrissistic , grandiose in his delusions about himself. He beleives and behaves as if he is a deity and untouchable. He threatens the courts and anyone that speaks truth to power (to him) and takes sadistic pleasure in seeing people hurt by his actions, ie firing them, shaming them, juvenile name calling, embarrassing them. and other sadistic tactic he employs. He is callous, cruel, and values money and power only. He is a loser ( many bankruptcies) and is never responsible for his conduct. He blames anyone, and everyone else for his failures, and misconduct. He has no conscience , n empathy, and is unable to form constructive / healthy relationships with anyone. His staff MUST be LOYAL to him. Competence does not matter. He demands to be worshipped, adored, and complimented.
what is really scary is that he has gotten a lot of control over the legal system and courts.......and is giving himself carte blanche to do whatever he wants.
The country and it's systems are being ruptured by one authoritarian man....who is addicted to money and power.
He is TOTALLY UNFIT to be POTUS........and it shows every day with greater clarity. He is a sick cult leader type and has convinced many to follow him with a degree of loyalty not apporpriate for a Democracy . (*or Democratic Republic)
He has ruined international relationships beyond repair as the world does not and cannot not trust the USG anymore. It is too UNSTABLE. too volatile, too unpredictable, and Unreliable. This lunatic in chief has done a LOT of serous damage in a mere four months.
 
It is refreshing to see that someone is addressing the Donald's mental unhealth . thank you for starting a convesation about this important issue.
Yes,, he is psychopathic, nacrissistic , grandiose in his delusions about himself. He beleives and behaves as if he is a deity and untouchable. He threatens the courts and anyone that speaks truth to power (to him) and takes sadistic pleasure in seeing people hurt by his actions, ie firing them, shaming them, juvenile name calling, embarrassing them. and other sadistic tactic he employs. He is callous, cruel, and values money and power only. He is a loser ( many bankruptcies) and is never responsible for his conduct. He blames anyone, and everyone else for his failures, and misconduct. He has no conscience , n empathy, and is unable to form constructive / healthy relationships with anyone. His staff MUST be LOYAL to him. Competence does not matter. He demands to be worshipped, adored, and complimented.
what is really scary is that he has gotten a lot of control over the legal system and courts.......and is giving himself carte blanche to do whatever he wants.
 
President Donald Trump brought the stock market to the edge of a bear market (i.e., a sustained 20 percent drop) by imposing ridiculously high tariffs indiscriminately around the globe. That was so much fun that on Friday he shared a video on Truth Social titled “Trump is PURPOSELY Crashing the Market.” Then, on Wednesday, Trump put those tariffs on hold for 90 days for those countries willing to negotiate over trade barriers real or imagined (though Trump’s 10 percent “everybody tariff” will remain, and China will be punished for its defiance by raising its tariff to 125 percent). After Trump announced the tariff suspension on Truth Social, the S&P 500 recorded its third-biggest gain since World War II. Trump must have felt like Moses parting the Red Sea.

We can all be grateful that Trump was willing to undo, at least temporarily, the worst of the damage he inflicted. But it would be wrong to conclude, as Wall Street likely will, that there’s a “Trump put” after all. The “Trump put” is a fancy way of saying that whenever Trump does something that inadvertently sends stock prices down he can be counted on to reverse course and push them back up. (A put is an options contract that limits losses in a down market to a fixed amount.) The long-standing presumption of a Trump put is why 52 billionaires, including Timothy Mellon, Steve Wynn, and the Winklevoss twins, backed Trump in 2024.

..

What Trump demonstrates here is not a strategy but a mental illness. I’m not the first to observe the striking resemblance between Trump’s governing style, particularly on tariffs, and Factitious Disorder Imposed on Another, more commonly known as Munchausen syndrome by proxy. It involves either pretending that a child is sick or inducing sickness so that you can luxuriate in restoring the child to health. (A wife who delights in sickening her husband with poisonous mushrooms, and then nursing him back to health, is an FDIA plot element in the 2017 film Phantom Thread.) According to the Cleveland Clinic, a common cause of FDIA is “wanting attention from others,” which of course fits Trump’s malignant narcissism like a glove. A shaky understanding of cause and effect, which the child psychologist Jean Piaget identified as transductive reasoning, would also seem consistent, and I’ve written previously that Trump has got that even though most people grow out of it at age 7.*

The only difficulty with diagnosing Trump with FDIA (apart from my not being, ahem, a psychologist) is that typically it’s motivated by love—or some deranged conception of love—and no malignant narcissist can ever love anyone but himself. In Trump’s case gratification comes from experiencing not a feeling of closeness in another person’s dependency but rather a feeling of schadenfreude in another person’s humiliation and surrender. Being Trump, our president said this out loud earlier this week at the Republican Congressional Committee Dinner. “I’m telling you, these countries are calling us up kissing my ass,” he said. “They are. They are dying to make a deal.”

The day before Trump let up on tariffs, he met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Trump’s foreign policy regarding Israel can be summed up as “Whatever Bibi wants, Bibi gets.” But not on tariffs. Netanyahu told Trump that in response to the 17 percent tariff Trump slapped on Israel he would eliminate “very quickly” all tariffs and trade deficits. But asked later whether he would lift the tariff against Israel, Trump replied: “Maybe not, maybe not.” This isn’t diplomacy. It’s pleasure in witnessing others grovel.


Add the narcissism, sociopathy, loose grip on reality and massively overcooked ego and you have a candidate for a long stretch in the bin...

comrade stalin
moscow
its killing china bad
 
Another failed garbage lefty commie thread!
Lets tear this BS apart right now shall we?

"more commonly known as Munchausen syndrome by proxy. It involves either pretending that a child is sick or inducing sickness so that you can luxuriate in restoring the child to health."

You know what that sounds like DUM DUM? it sounds like what lib parents do to their kids when they pretend they are trapped in the wrong body so they can play savior and sex change them so they can LUXURIATE amongst their lib friends and brag who's kid is the most mentally screwed up!

If anyone displays this syndrome, it certainly isn't trump. What's the matter? ran out of Hitler references so now you had to pull syndromes out of your liberall arse? Take your syndrome and stuff it. Its a pathetic, desperate display of TDS

Enjoy 3+ more years of Trump you tards. You are the dummies that got him elected with all of your lawfare garbage. I thank you! So very much for getting him elected. you and George Clooney of course.

Cheers suckas!!!!
 
the suckers are the people who believed that the economic genius would lower prices..

The Death of Truth

Given all the pre-publication hoopla about this book, I wasn't sure that it could live up to the hype. It is the story of a stereotypical dysfunctional extended family. "The sins of the father are inflicted on the children" is the storyline. No one survives untouched, and one of the most damaged is the oldest son, the father of the author. He dies at an early age because he is unable to withstand the continuous onslaught of the sociopathic father. But an even greater consequence is story of the second oldest son, who develops a wounded ego that compensates for an internal sense of inferiority. He typifies the old joke, "He didn't have a sense of inferiority; he just was inferior." Unfortunately, the Donald doesn't understand that and is fed and enabled by never being held to account for anything. He develops a mind that is detached from reality and cannot distinguish between lies and the truth.

The tragedies of this family are compounded by the fact that perhaps the most dysfunctional member of the family became the President of the United States. She does not try to explain or to understand how this happened. As a clinical psychologist, she is well qualified to make an assessment of the mental capacities (or lack thereof) of our 45th President. She isn't joking when she compares him to a spoiled 3-year child who knows no discipline or self-control. He lives solely in fear of being discovered as a fraud and demands continuous obeisance to feed his wounded ego, hence the title.

The book is well written and spell-binding as the storyline develops. Of course, her perspective is from an understanding of how her father, Freddy, was abused and rejected while her uncle was given everything literally. No one ever said no to him. She develops this theme in great detail, but then she seems to quickly skip over the impact of his diet that would literally kill a horse. That alone would be sufficient to produce a deranged mind.

The media and the interviews have picked the juiciest quotes to tantalize the public, and that produced one of the largest initial print runs for Simon & Schuster. She has outsold John Bolton, which probably wounded him a lot. He already has quickly disappeared from the media scene and has been upstaged by her in every sense of the word.

We are in the midst of a real Shakespearean tragedy that is still unfolding after three years in office. We are witnessing the unraveling of a personality as he takes the nation down with him. We have yet to tally the lost lives that occurred as the result of his total self-absorption and lack of empathy. In his mind, the whole world literally revolves around him.

Some people have questioned her motivation in writing the book. They claimed she is an aggrieved loser who is only seeking revenge. I see every reason to believe, that because she has seen the person up close for decades, that she really is scared of the damage he would continue to do to this nation if allowed to serve in office for another term. I doubt that she believes that he would take her suggestion and resign. In my opinion, she simply didn't want to appear that she was intent upon "doing him in." In fact, in spite of her first-hand revelations, I suspect that these facts will have little or no impact on his most ardent supporters who appear to be just as deranged as he is. He has tapped into a segment of society that is fearful of becoming a minority in a country where they have enjoyed the entitlements of white supremacy for generations. His continuous attacks on the media and the intelligentsia play into the resentments of the poor white trash (for want of a better phrase.) The evangelicals will support him as long as he is against abortion and hates gays. One of her most apt phrases was that his supporters are the kind of people that he would never associate with except at a political rally


comrade stalin
moscow
 
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"Excellent psycholigical analysis of what made TRUMP the sick man leading the Presidency of the USA. The parallel with Hitler and his sick mind is easily done. Now we have a better understanding of what were the causes that are leading to his sick behaviour.

Trump shares many of the pathological characteristics of Hitler, and he has the charisma of the Buffoon Benito Mussolini.

I see this book as warning to the US people to avoid what happened to the German people and lead to WWII.

If so many people are and will vote to reelect Trump, it shows also that the USA is equally sick.

How could one vote for a leadership that has no empathy, is constantly lying, a racist and mysogyn, only interested in his own reelection and power, lacking basic ethical values, totaly and absurdely incompetent. A failing businessman several times bancrupt. He is a major threat to world's democracy, and even World peace.

Hitler rebuilt Germany in his early leadership years, but Trump did not even had a positive impact on the economy, he benefited from the raising economy due to the Obama leadership. He did not manage the COVID19 crisis, and was incompetent in all other situations requiring the intervention of the world's most powerful person in charge. He could only display his incompetence and rare ability to fashion an alternate reality, and avoiding any responsability.

The difference with Hitler: Trump has the nuclear weapon (and many other lethal weapons), a world leader economy, largest and strongest army, and naïve people who don't want to see the concequences of their voting ability ... May be in a few years these same people will say "how could we imagine he would lead to this disaster ?" And "we are not responsible, we just obeyed orders from our leader" ...

I clearly see this book as a major warning to the American people

comrade stalin
moscow
 
if you keep talking to yourself long enough in your own sorry thread, is it easier to pretend its actually OTHER people participating in it?
 
Another failed garbage lefty commie thread!
Lets tear this BS apart right now shall we?

"more commonly known as Munchausen syndrome by proxy. It involves either pretending that a child is sick or inducing sickness so that you can luxuriate in restoring the child to health."
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Wow....the same way Spanky creates issues....so, only he knows how to come-up with a cure!!!
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HOW OBSERVANT OF YOU!!
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the suckers are the people who believed that the economic genius would lower prices..

The Death of Truth

Given all the pre-publication hoopla about this book, I wasn't sure that it could live up to the hype. It is the story of a stereotypical dysfunctional extended family. "The sins of the father are inflicted on the children" is the storyline. No one survives untouched, and one of the most damaged is the oldest son, the father of the author. He dies at an early age because he is unable to withstand the continuous onslaught of the sociopathic father. But an even greater consequence is story of the second oldest son, who develops a wounded ego that compensates for an internal sense of inferiority. He typifies the old joke, "He didn't have a sense of inferiority; he just was inferior." Unfortunately, the Donald doesn't understand that and is fed and enabled by never being held to account for anything. He develops a mind that is detached from reality and cannot distinguish between lies and the truth.

The tragedies of this family are compounded by the fact that perhaps the most dysfunctional member of the family became the President of the United States. She does not try to explain or to understand how this happened. As a clinical psychologist, she is well qualified to make an assessment of the mental capacities (or lack thereof) of our 45th President. She isn't joking when she compares him to a spoiled 3-year child who knows no discipline or self-control. He lives solely in fear of being discovered as a fraud and demands continuous obeisance to feed his wounded ego, hence the title.

The book is well written and spell-binding as the storyline develops. Of course, her perspective is from an understanding of how her father, Freddy, was abused and rejected while her uncle was given everything literally. No one ever said no to him. She develops this theme in great detail, but then she seems to quickly skip over the impact of his diet that would literally kill a horse. That alone would be sufficient to produce a deranged mind.

The media and the interviews have picked the juiciest quotes to tantalize the public, and that produced one of the largest initial print runs for Simon & Schuster. She has outsold John Bolton, which probably wounded him a lot. He already has quickly disappeared from the media scene and has been upstaged by her in every sense of the word.

We are in the midst of a real Shakespearean tragedy that is still unfolding after three years in office. We are witnessing the unraveling of a personality as he takes the nation down with him. We have yet to tally the lost lives that occurred as the result of his total self-absorption and lack of empathy. In his mind, the whole world literally revolves around him.

Some people have questioned her motivation in writing the book. They claimed she is an aggrieved loser who is only seeking revenge. I see every reason to believe, that because she has seen the person up close for decades, that she really is scared of the damage he would continue to do to this nation if allowed to serve in office for another term. I doubt that she believes that he would take her suggestion and resign. In my opinion, she simply didn't want to appear that she was intent upon "doing him in." In fact, in spite of her first-hand revelations, I suspect that these facts will have little or no impact on his most ardent supporters who appear to be just as deranged as he is. He has tapped into a segment of society that is fearful of becoming a minority in a country where they have enjoyed the entitlements of white supremacy for generations. His continuous attacks on the media and the intelligentsia play into the resentments of the poor white trash (for want of a better phrase.) The evangelicals will support him as long as he is against abortion and hates gays. One of her most apt phrases was that his supporters are the kind of people that he would never associate with except at a political rally


comrade stalin
moscow
any one who listens toyou and belives you would be the biggest ***** on earth and a professional idiot like you
 
I wish I could profit from idiocy, after all people like frump and musk do on a daily basis, but in my work environment, you have to be smart.

Maybe you should consult the dictionary on the meaning of the word professional.

comrade stalin
moscow
 
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....Just the kind of Republican Corporate-Amerika likes to have in-office....until the shit hits the fan!!!!
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Bracing For Trumponomics
November 29, 2016
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What is astounding is the level of tolerance Americans have for incompetence , stupidity, recklessness, and instability. It suggests a certain "devotion" to a dear leader that is far from Democratic . The psycho in chief has done more damage in a few short months , than has been done in the last hundred years. And he has barely gotten started. He is out of control and that is dangerous to the nation and the world. NO Country trusts the US anymore. That kind of damage is irreparable.
 
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Wow....the same way Spanky creates issues....so, only he knows how to come-up with a cure!!!
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HOW OBSERVANT OF YOU!!
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The problem is that he has no cure. He breaks things but has no plan or idea of what to replace them with or repair them. He is a pathologival liar. He is a pathological destroyer. Look at his "reseme"......MULTIPLE Bankrupcies, failures in business, abuse of staff , prejdicial conduct, cruelty in dealing with people. His sadistic deportation is evidence of his irrationality. As are all the firings, the grotesqe and juvenile name calling, his lust for REVEMNGE.....and divisiveness.
NOT FIT FOR THE JOB............and the populace is too gullible and dunned down now to realize it. He is taking them over the cliff and they are happily following.
 
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Sadly, there are 77 american voters just like him, or sympathise with him, or are too dumb to read the writing on the wall,
which can longer be painted over...

maga cult is a classic case of mass hysteria.


the constant irrelevant and ad hominem sledging of "libtards" or "liberal" ( which I am not - i am a marxist ) by maga apparatchiks on this site is a symption of mass hysteria which probably with be demonstated in the next maga cult post by one of the faithful.

comrade stalin
 
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