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Georgia woman claims to have had 13-year affair with Herman Cain

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  1. Little-Acorn

    Little-Acorn Well-Known Member

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    To me, this one looks pretty definite.

    The woman showed some cell phone bills to a FOX reporter, showing sixty-plus calls to and from a number that Herman Cain apparently answers to. The FOX reporter then talked to Cain, who said he knew the woman, but had never had any kind of affair, and had only tried to help her financially.

    Is Cain telling the truth, and he only tried to help this woman financially, and the woman is making up lies about a physical affair?

    Or is the woman telling the truth, and they DID have a physical affair?

    Can she show airline tickets for the dates in question? Registrations etc. from the Ritz in Buckhead, bills from the Four Seasons restaurant, etc.? Remains to be seen. If Cain was only "helping her financially", I don't think he would have flown her to lots of cities, put her up in fancy hotels etc. Did he?

    There is a LOT of smoke here. No fire, really?

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    http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/ginger-white-claims-affair-herman-cain-20111127-es

    Georgia Woman Claims 13-Year Affair with Herman Cain

    Updated: Monday, 28 Nov 2011, 6:02 PM EST
    Published : Monday, 28 Nov 2011, 5:01 PM EST

    by DALE RUSSELL/FOX 5 I-Team

    ATLANTA, Ga. - An Atlanta businesswoman is breaking her silence, claiming she has been involved in a 13-year-long affair with Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain.

    Over the Thanksgiving weekend, FOX 5 senior I-Team reporter Dale Russell sat down with Ginger White, who had a story to tell.

    “I'm not proud,” White told Russell. “I didn't want to come out with this. I did not.”

    White was worried a political tsunami was headed her way. So, she decided to head it off, by confessing she was involved in a 13-year-long affair with presidential hopeful Herman Cain.

    “It was pretty simple,” White said. “It wasn't complicated. I was aware that he was married. And I was also aware I was involved in a very inappropriate situation, relationship.”

    Ginger White says she met Herman Cain in the late 90s in Louisville, Kentucky, when as president of the National Restaurant Association, he made a presentation. She was impressed. She says they shared drinks afterwards and he invited her back to his hotel room.

    “’I'd like to see you again,’” White said Cain told her. “’You are beautiful to me, and I would love for us to continue this friendship.’”

    She says in his hotel room, he pulled out a calendar and invited her to meet him in Palm Springs. She accepted, and she says the affair began.

    “He made it very intriguing,” White told FOX 5. “It was fun. It was something that took me away from my humdrum life at the time. And it was exciting.”

    She says he gave her his newly-published book, Leadership is Common Sense, and he wrote: “Miss G, you have already made a 'big difference!’ Stay focused as you pursue your next destination."

    She says during the next 13 years, he would fly her to cities where he was speaking and he lavished her with gifts. She says they often stayed at the Ritz Carlton in Buckhead and dined at The Four Seasons restaurant. She says he never harassed her, never treated her poorly, and was the same man you see on the campaign trail.

    “Very much the same, very much confident, very much sure of himself,” White said, describing Cain. “Very arrogant in a playful sometimes way. Very, ah -- Herman Cain loves Herman Cain.”

    When his new book, CEO of SELF, came out in 2001, she says Cain once again autographed it for her writing, "Friends are forever! Everything else is a bonus."

    When asked if it was fair to say the relationship is going on even now, White said, “I think it is safe to say that after this interview, that will be the end of it. Yes, we have a friendship now.”

    She says the physical relationship ended about eight months ago, right before Cain announced he was running for president. But the communication did not. When we asked for any corroborating evidence, she pointed us to her cell phone contacts. One name: Herman Cain.

    She showed us some of her cell phone bills that included 61 phone calls or text messages to or from a number starting with 678. She says it is Herman Cain's private cell phone. The calls were made during four different months-- calls or texts made as early as 4:26 in the early morning, and as late as 7:52 at night. The latest were in September of this year.

    “We've never worked together,” said White. “And I can't imagine someone phoning or texting me for the last two and a half years, just because.”

    We texted the number and Herman Cain called us back. He told us he "knew Ginger White" but said these are "more false allegations." He said she had his number because he was "trying to help her financially.”

    She says she planned on keeping the relationship a secret while Cain made his run for the White House until she and her family watched reports of different women who had accused Herman Cain of sexual harassment. She says she was not surprised by the allegations, but was bothered by the way Cain fought back, attacking the woman, including during an appearance on Late Show with David Letterman.

    “It bothered me that they were being demonized, sort of, they were treated as if they were automatically lying, and the burden of proof was on them,” White said. “I felt bad for them.”

    We received a phone tip from someone who knew Ginger White. That person claimed Ms. White was having an affair with Herman Cain. The tipster also called a number of other national media outlets who reached out to her. White told FOX 5, she felt trapped.

    “I wanted to give my side, before it was thrown out there and made out to be something filthy,” said White. “Some people will look at this and say that is exactly what it is. I'm sorry for that.”

    And so she talked. Before our interview, we checked into Ginger White's background. We found she filed a sexual harassment claim against an employer in 2001. That case was settled.

    We also found a bankruptcy filing nearly 23 years ago in Kentucky, and a number of eviction notices here in DeKalb County over the past six years. The most recent happened this month.

    Ms. White says she has been unemployed, and she is a single mom with two kids struggling to make ends meet.

    “I don't think that makes me out to be a bad person,” White said. “It makes me out to be one of the millions of people right now trying to keep a roof over their head.”

    We also found a lawsuit filed by a former business partner, Kimberly Vay, who once sought a "stalking temporary protective order" against Ms. White for "repeated e-mails/texts threatening lawsuit and defamation of character." The case was dismissed; but was followed by a libel lawsuit against Ms. White. A judge entered an order in favor of Kimberly Vay because Ms. White failed to respond to the lawsuit.

    When asked why, under those circumstances, her claims against Cain should be believed, White said, “Because I admit it. Whatever happened with Kim happened. Just as there would make no sense for me to come out with these allegations against Herman if it absolutely wasn't true.”

    Her attorney, Ed Buckley, says she didn't answer the lawsuit because she didn't know about it, and she thought her business dispute had been settled with negotiations.

    Ginger White says she expects to be scrutinized and attacked by Herman Cain and the media, but she felt she needed to tell her story before anyone else told it for her.

    “I didn't want to do this, but it was something I felt at the end of the day was the right thing to do,” said White. “Is it going to hurt a lot people? Yes. I'm sure I will be one of them.”

    Late this afternoon, Cain’s attorney, Len Wood, sent FOX 5 the following statement:

    "Mr. Cain has been informed today that your television station plans to broadcast a story this evening in which a female will make an accusation that she engaged in a 13-year long physical relationship with Mr. Cain. This is not an accusation of harassment in the workplace – this is not an accusation of an assault - which are subject matters of legitimate inquiry to a political candidate.

    Rather, this appears to be an accusation of private, alleged consensual conduct between adults - a subject matter which is not a proper subject of inquiry by the media or the public. No individual, whether a private citizen, a candidate for public office or a public official, should be questioned about his or her private sexual life. The public's right to know and the media's right to report has boundaries and most certainly those boundaries end outside of one's bedroom door.

    Mr. Cain has alerted his wife to this new accusation and discussed it with her. He has no obligation to discuss these types of accusations publicly with the media and he will not do so even if his principled position is viewed unfavorably by members of the media."
     
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    more to chew on than the stuff before. we'll see if she hires a lawyer to manage financials.
     
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    Little-Acorn Well-Known Member

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    If she can show receipts from the fancy hotels, and from the airline tickets, then I don't see how Cain could have done those things for a woman he was "only helping financially".

    And while Cain flatly denied any "affair", his lawyer didn't deny anything. The lawyer only said, "What you are accusing him of is not illegal".

    Sorry, Herman, that's not enough.
     
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    Little-Acorn Well-Known Member

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    It's clear what Herman Cain must do at this point.

    And it's the only honorable thing to do.

    He must go into court, and petition for a legal change of name, to William Jefferson Clinton Cain.

    Then, with the background he apparently has, he'll be elected in a flash. And even RE-elected four years later. And the media will back him, and cover for him, every step of the way.
     
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    easier than that, just change the R behind his name to a D and get back on the plantation.
     
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    Funny how racist remarks come so naturally to you. . .even after you tried for weeks to defend one guy for the ONLY reason that he is a declared Republican!

    Filthy attitude!
     
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    and here I was thinking it was going to take 10 woman before you guys started to think hmmm maybe we should actually check into this guy....
     
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    you might recall Cain famously stating that he refused to stay on the Dem plantation like a good black man is supposed to do. then again you may not recall this.
     
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    its such a good thing cain never played the Race card as he often said...over and over as he used it. Maybe it distracted him from the ladies.
     
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    He's toast.

    "I'm reassessing my campaign" is always the death rattle.

    I pretty much believe this latest woman myself. Phone bills are pretty damning, and if she can show any hotel receipts (even gift shop receipts from buying a Snickers bar or whatever), or airline tickets, or restaurant receipts, that pretty much does it. Why would Cain bring her to these various cities if all he was doing was "helping her financially"?

    Only if she admits she has no such receipts of any kind, is there any chance it wasn't the affair she claims. But IMHO that's pretty unlikely.

    Damn it, Herm, I liked you. But if this stuff it true, then you're stupid. Not to mention a real cad to your wife and kids.

    If it somehow turns out years later that all these women WERE lying and in fact Cain did nothing, this will be the the most astonishingly vile sabotage campaign in the history of U.S. politics.

    But I don't think so. There's WAY too much smoke.

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    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/...s-new-allegations-emerge/?partner=rss&emc=rss

    Cain Reassessing Candidacy as New Allegations Emerge

    by JEFF ZELENY
    November 29, 2011, 11:53 am

    Herman Cain told members of his campaign staff on Tuesday that he was reassessing whether to proceed with his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, an aide confirmed, a day after an Atlanta woman disclosed details of what she said was a 13-year affair with him.

    In a morning conference call with his advisers, Mr. Cain said that he would make a decision in the coming days about whether to stay in the presidential race after his campaign was rocked by another round of allegations about his sexual conduct.

    The call, which was first reported by National Review, came as Mr. Cain was heading to Michigan for a campaign stop on Tuesday evening. He said that he was discussing the future of his campaign with his family and was considering options for his next move.
     
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    Come on...did anyone think Cain was really going to be a serious candidate anyway?
     
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    Not after his continually missteps and mistresses.
     
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    In my opinion, his entire campaign has been a "misstep"...making him never feasibly a serious contender.
     
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    Well yes, but the 999 plan has 'some' merit.
     
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    "Some?" You're being generous!

    It's totally unrealistic and ridiculous, and Cain's favorite way to answer ANY question has been "999!"

    He had NOTHING to offer, and the best thing he can do for himself and for his poor wife is to get out as soon as he can!

    Obviously, the Koch brothers are not going to be happy to have backed the "wrong horse!" but I'm sure they can find another crazy candidate tod pay off!

    But I don't think it will be either Romney, Gingrich, or Paul . .they're not that stupid!
     
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