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Here are 32 separate predictions, 27 of which failed completely, 1 was accurate enough to claim as a win for the people who programmed the senario but it is entirely unclear whether human beings are responsible or whether it was just a lucky guess, and since this list was published, the trend that arctic ice has taken has been the opposite of their prediction anyway so it didn't hold, and the results of 4 were so ambiguous so as to be intederminable.

http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/scorecard.htm

Contrary to what your handlers tell you, the grant money available from oil companies is a very tiny percentage of the money available from organizations looking for political power via AGW theory. You mention the sierra club as if it were a monolithic organization and the only one offering grant money.

The owner of virgin records, for example has offered up 3 billion dollars in grant money for scientists who will look for a solution to "global warming". He is particularly interested in problems created by commercial aircraft and is seeking, via his research money, government mandates for cleaner jet fuels. Oddly enough, he also owns one of the only companies in the world that makes a clean burning jet fuel. One mandated change in jet fuel would make him 10 times the 3 billion dollar investement he put up in "grant" money. This sort of thing is rife within the AGW community.

The oil companies have little need to pull the sort of crap the owner of virgin records is pulling because oil is going to continue to be needed for a very long time. A mandate from the government, for example, for clean buring fuel doesn't hurt the oil companies. Clean burning fuel takes more oil to make so such a mandate boosts their profits so why would they be interested in countering it?

I didn't give up. It is clear that you are out of your depth and unable to actually discuss the issue. At best, you can cut and paste information from other sites that you admittedly don't understand any more than the initial information I provided. So what is the point?

By the way, the experiment is valid. Sorry you don't grasp it.

<blockquote data-quote="palerider" data-source="post: 28691" data-attributes="member: 176">Here are 32 separate predictions, 27 of which failed completely, 1 was accurate enough to claim as a win for the people who programmed the senario but it is entirely unclear whether human beings are responsible or whether it was just a lucky guess, and since this list was published, the trend that arctic ice has taken has been the opposite of their prediction anyway so it didn&#039;t hold, and the results of 4 were so ambiguous so as to be intederminable. <a href="http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/scorecard.htm" target="_blank">http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/scorecard.htm</a>Contrary to what your handlers tell you, the grant money available from oil companies is a very tiny percentage of the money available from organizations looking for political power via AGW theory.&nbsp; You mention the sierra club as if it were a monolithic organization and the only one offering grant money.&nbsp; The owner of virgin records, for example has offered up 3 billion dollars in grant money for scientists who will look for a solution to &quot;global warming&quot;.&nbsp; He is particularly interested in problems created by commercial aircraft and is seeking, via his research money, government mandates for cleaner jet fuels.&nbsp; Oddly enough, he also owns one of the only companies in the world that makes a clean burning jet fuel.&nbsp; One mandated change in jet fuel would make him 10 times the 3 billion dollar investement he put up in &quot;grant&quot; money.&nbsp; This sort of thing is rife within the AGW community.&nbsp; The oil companies have little need to pull the sort of crap the owner of virgin records is pulling because oil is going to continue to be needed for a very long time.&nbsp; A mandate from the government, for example, for clean buring fuel doesn&#039;t hurt the oil companies.&nbsp; Clean burning fuel takes more oil to make so such a mandate boosts their profits so why would they be interested in countering it?I didn&#039;t give up.&nbsp; It is clear that you are out of your depth and unable to actually discuss the issue.&nbsp; At best, you can cut and paste information from other sites that you admittedly don&#039;t understand any more than the initial information I provided.&nbsp; So what is the point?&nbsp; By the way, the experiment is valid.&nbsp; Sorry you don&#039;t grasp it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="palerider, post: 28691, member: 176"] Here are 32 separate predictions, 27 of which failed completely, 1 was accurate enough to claim as a win for the people who programmed the senario but it is entirely unclear whether human beings are responsible or whether it was just a lucky guess, and since this list was published, the trend that arctic ice has taken has been the opposite of their prediction anyway so it didn't hold, and the results of 4 were so ambiguous so as to be intederminable. [url]http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/scorecard.htm[/url] Contrary to what your handlers tell you, the grant money available from oil companies is a very tiny percentage of the money available from organizations looking for political power via AGW theory. You mention the sierra club as if it were a monolithic organization and the only one offering grant money. The owner of virgin records, for example has offered up 3 billion dollars in grant money for scientists who will look for a solution to "global warming". He is particularly interested in problems created by commercial aircraft and is seeking, via his research money, government mandates for cleaner jet fuels. Oddly enough, he also owns one of the only companies in the world that makes a clean burning jet fuel. One mandated change in jet fuel would make him 10 times the 3 billion dollar investement he put up in "grant" money. This sort of thing is rife within the AGW community. The oil companies have little need to pull the sort of crap the owner of virgin records is pulling because oil is going to continue to be needed for a very long time. A mandate from the government, for example, for clean buring fuel doesn't hurt the oil companies. Clean burning fuel takes more oil to make so such a mandate boosts their profits so why would they be interested in countering it? I didn't give up. It is clear that you are out of your depth and unable to actually discuss the issue. At best, you can cut and paste information from other sites that you admittedly don't understand any more than the initial information I provided. So what is the point? By the way, the experiment is valid. Sorry you don't grasp it. [/QUOTE]

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