I don't have any problem at all with cleaning up our act. I favor catastrophic fines and imprisonment for people who try to hide their pollution, or dump illegally. I favor cleaning up our waterways, and coastlines, and wilderness areas.
The "fumes" you are speaking of cause pollution but they do not cause climate change and there isn't a whit of evidence that supports the idea that they do. Cleaning up the enviornment isn't what the global warming scare is about though. The climate change scare is about gaining political power over capitalist nations. The climate change scare is about terrifying people like you into giving up your freedom in exchange for "them" doing someithing. What I ask? You reply, anything.
Effect on the environment and climate change are two entirely different things and should not be confused. In all the history of the earth, prior to modern man, there had never been a landfill, or nuclear waste dump, or a tire fire and I am all for cleaning up the messes that we have made, BUT, if you look back through history you will see that climate change is a thing that happens over and over and over.
Also, the earth is not a delicate system that is poised on the brink of disaster all the time. That is a myth and has no basis in fact. Consider, for example, oil spills. Are you aware that more oil naturally seeps out from the floor of the oceans every year than mankind has spilled since we began transporting oil? Are you aware that the entire CO2 output of the entire human race anually is not enough to overcome the earth's own CO2 making machinery? And the list goes on and on and on. We might be dirtying up the enviornment, but we are not responsible for climate change.
Put your brain to work for just a moment. The ice started melting back some 14,000 years ago because the earth began to warm up. The present warming cycle began 14,000 years ago with no help at all from mankind. The ice has retreated over 2,000 miles and sea level has increased over 500 feet since the melt back began.
Now apply these facts to your enviornment. Tell me, were you live, does winter stay cold until some date that is carved in stone and then summmer happens, or does the warming from winter to summer happen over a cycle with the warming coming faster and faster and faster as winter is left behind?
Does it come as some surprise to you that the warming cycle that the earth is in would speed up as the worst of the ice age is left behind? Does it really surprise you, in any way, that the earth would warm faster as the ice melts back further and further and is there any reason to suspect that since the ice has melted back some 2,000 miles, that the trend would cease when you consider that throughout the earth's history, the presence of ice is not normal. Look at this chart. It is accurate and reflects the climate cycles that the earth has been through.
By the time the mean temperature reaches 17 degrees C the ice is gone and it is clear that for most of earth's history, there has been no ice. Also, take a look at this little chart. The black line represents atmospheric CO2. Look at the amount of CO2 that has been present in the atmosphere throughout history. Compared to today, the earth is CO2 starved. If we tried to raise the CO2 levels to the levels that have existed in the past, we would find that we couldn't do it even if we devoted all of our treasure and technology into the task.
I appreciate the idea of cleaning up but the idea of doing immeasurable damage to our economic systems in a vain attempt to have an effect on the global climate cycles disgusts me and the people who are so uneducated, and gullible that they can be manipulated by people who seek nothing more than political power over them have my pity.
By the way, how about giving me some credible science that suggests that the earth is presently at the optimum temperature for either human beings or the world's flora and fauna in general.
