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We seem to have gotten way off the original, very simple, opening statement of this thread and gotten stuck in "Lucifer land".The point is that if God controls all natural things (things in which free will is not the issue) then when the trailer park full of devoted born again Christians is wiped out in a tornado... it's God.When an innocent little baby in a stroller slips out of its mothers hands and is run over by a bus... it's God.Same thing with the various breakdowns of differing religions. Christianity for example.If a baby rapists or murderer is religiously "saved" after the act he can get into heaven because all sin is equal in God's eyes.However the Rabi that devoted his whole life to the worship of God and spent his whole life doing all he could to promote goodness in his name. He can't get into heaven.It does seem a very bazaar concept in many ways.
We seem to have gotten way off the original, very simple, opening statement of this thread and gotten stuck in "Lucifer land".
The point is that if God controls all natural things (things in which free will is not the issue) then when the trailer park full of devoted born again Christians is wiped out in a tornado... it's God.
When an innocent little baby in a stroller slips out of its mothers hands and is run over by a bus... it's God.
Same thing with the various breakdowns of differing religions. Christianity for example.
If a baby rapists or murderer is religiously "saved" after the act he can get into heaven because all sin is equal in God's eyes.
However the Rabi that devoted his whole life to the worship of God and spent his whole life doing all he could to promote goodness in his name. He can't get into heaven.
It does seem a very bazaar concept in many ways.