Not much of a defense of your vague and pointless responses, Nums.
Another good example of a non-response--used twice already on one page of posts.
Again we have a non-response in another false personal attack.
Yes, actually they would, especially if they were trying to spin something really simple like LOVE GOD and LOVE OTHERS AS YOURSELF into something that would allow them to collect huge amounts of money, build a world-spanning empire, let the Pope live like a king while millions of God's children live in abject poverty, and so that the Chruch can sell Papal dispensations to control people and garner more funds. There is good money in obfuscation. We should also note that the Catholic church didn't want Bible to be printed and given to the general public--hard to lie to the people when they can read the scriptures themselves.
Look at the stuff you post, Nums, it's all this airy-fairy Kantian ethics and Circles of Hell and ontological metaphysics instead of simply noting what Jesus said.
Got you on that one, didn't I? The President is a flogging politician, he doesn't bill himself as Christ's Vicar on Earth. The Pope is supposed to be setting an example, isn't he? The embodyment of Christ as leader of Christ's church, but instead he is the head of a vast financial empire that lives off the very people that the Bible says he should be helping. Hypocrisy in a politician is expected... oh right, hypocrisy in a Christian is too. When the very best of your church, the man who was chosen to lead and set the example, who is the final word between God and man in your church lives at the egregious expense of millions of downtrodden people, then that needs to be pointed out. Your church has no credibility when it acts this way. Much like it has none where pedophile priests are concerned.
Why? Was she having sex with a minor? I think the story was edited, if it happened at all. Jesus was too heads up not to have dragged the responsible man in too, I mean the woman wasn't having sex by herself so why was she the only one to be punished? Misogynistic attitudes rampant in Christian dogma is why.
I assume that you are accusing me of misquoting you. Got proof?
Unless I am mistaken, you have yet to prove that mind/will doesn't arise from the physical properties of the brain as many scientists think. I don't personally believe that, but I can't prove it one way or the other. Can you?
Really? Got any proof? I gave examples from my life, your life may have been different. In light of your arrogant and superior attitude I suspect that people might not stop to generously offer to help you--I would though if I knew it was you just so I could make the point that you are wrong. Childish of me, I know, but it would still be fun to do.
How would it have been a HUGE personal sacrifice? More than 3 days like at Woodstock, I doubt it.
Well, I guess you are more versed in the quotes of Yoda than I so I'll have to take your word for it despite the fact that you have not provided anything to back up your statement.
And you are the one hiding behind a phony argument of "context" rather than admitting that Jesus' message was simple and universal. To maintain the Catholic empire you NEED the complex dogma so that people have to turn to the church for explanations. Basically, it's lying, making something simple into something complex so that you can manipulate others to your benefit. (You being the Catholic Church in this case rather than you, Nums.)
I didn't think Buddha had much to do with this conversation either, but you brought him up when we were discussing crucified saviors predating the Christian story.
Another wild ass accusation with nothing to back it up. Your cred is taking a beating here, Nums.
Another wild ass accusation with nothing to back it up. Your cred is taking a beating here, Nums. How do you get from my objecting to the blasphemy in the Bible to my belittling someone who dies for what they believe in? Hello? Earth to Nums, I haven't said anything about people dying for what they believe in.
I never said they weren't, you would respond better if you actually READ what I write.
Not for everybody, I noted for example the indigenous peoples, but your examples were all of "civilized" societies with complex religious traditions, Takers as opposed to Leavers (if you're not familiar with the terms, they come from the works of Daniel Quinn who talked about human history and refered to people as Takers of responsibility who did not trust God to provide for them and Leavers who left the responsibility of everything to God).
Since they are the ones teaching eternal damnation and Hellfire, Judgment Day, and the Bible is full of God's vengeance and tells us to fear Him, then yes, I think it's Christianity's fault. I don't believe it, hence my drive to reform the Bible and get it to reflect what Jesus' message really was rather than the nonsense we get nowadays.
