Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

[PLC1]

Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah's at Trump Plaza.

The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward’s father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort’s builder.

Edward’s son, Paul, who was the firm’s accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason: the money never came. “That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company… which has been around since my grandfather,” he said.

Follow the link for many more examples.

So, is this his plan to reduce the deficit, just not pay the bills and then keep people in court for so long that they finally just give up and absorb the loss?

The Republican Party has been conned. Let's not let the scam artist con the rest of us.

 

[Old_Trapper70]

Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills



Follow the link for many more examples.

So, is this his plan to reduce the deficit, just not pay the bills and then keep people in court for so long that they finally just give up and absorb the loss?

The Republican Party has been conned. Let's not let the scam artist con the rest of us.

Is this the link you referred to since yours doesn't seem to work:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

Won't matter to those like Dog. Like Trump said, he could shoot someone in the middle of the street, and his mindless minions would still follow him off the cliff. Well, he wouldn't jump off, he would just direct his minions to do so.

 

[PLC1]

Is this the link you referred to since yours doesn't seem to work:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

Won't matter to those like Dog. Like Trump said, he could shoot someone in the middle of the street, and his mindless minions would still follow him off the cliff. Well, he wouldn't jump off, he would just direct his minions to do so.

My link works on my computer. Thanks for an alternative, in case it doesn't work for someone else.

 

[dogtowner]

This is not uncommon where construction is involved.

 

[PLC1]

This is not uncommon where construction is involved.

Particularly when the owner of the building being constructed lacks integrity.

 

[dogtowner]

Particularly when the owner of the building being constructed lacks integrity.

Trump doesn't write the checks, thatsb what general contractors are for. But you are correct to note integrity us in short supply in the construction biz.

 

[PLC1]

Trump doesn't write the checks, thatsb what general contractors are for. But you are correct to note integrity us in short supply in the construction biz.

Yes, and it's in even shorter supply in the running for president biz.

 

[dogtowner]

Yes, and it's in even shorter supply in the running for president biz.

As pols have to be bought (while non pols do not when they are well to do) to be pols, that's a given.

 

[Old_Trapper70]

As pols have to be bought (while non pols do not when they are well to do) to be pols, that's a given.

Are you saying that Trump was not aware of the lack of payment? You really are a Trumpkin:

"Trump and his daughter Ivanka, in an interview with USA TODAY, shrugged off the lawsuits and other claims of non-payment. If a company or worker he hires isn’t paid fully, the Trumps said, it’s because The Trump Organization was unhappy with the work.

“Let’s say that they do a job that’s not good, or a job that they didn’t finish, or a job that was way late. I’ll deduct from their contract, absolutely,” Trump said. “That’s what the country should be doing.”

 

[PLC1]

Are you saying that Trump was not aware of the lack of payment? You really are a Trumpkin:

"Trump and his daughter Ivanka, in an interview with USA TODAY, shrugged off the lawsuits and other claims of non-payment. If a company or worker he hires isn’t paid fully, the Trumps said, it’s because The Trump Organization was unhappy with the work.

“Let’s say that they do a job that’s not good, or a job that they didn’t finish, or a job that was way late. I’ll deduct from their contract, absolutely,” Trump said. “That’s what the country should be doing.”

If you sign a legal contract, you can't just arbitrarily "deduct from it."

Unless, of course, you have enough money to keep the person with the contract so tied up in legal battles that he finally gives up.

 

[dogtowner]

If you sign a legal contract, you can't just arbitrarily "deduct from it."

Unless, of course, you have enough money to keep the person with the contract so tied up in legal battles that he finally gives up.

Depends on the contract and could depend on other agreements as well.
Your article, as with most, is short on details and one sided. Not to say the guy did not get stiffed only that it's impossible to prove.
And consider that if these general contractors were so well known to be crooked, why would you take/bid for the job ?

 

[Old_Trapper70]

Depends on the contract and could depend on other agreements as well.
Your article, as with most, is short on details and one sided. Not to say the guy did not get stiffed only that it's impossible to prove.
And consider that if these general contractors were so well known to be crooked, why would you take/bid for the job ?

Hmmm, again you prove tat Trump could lead you off a cliff, and then watch you fall. Did you happen to read what trump himself said? Try it, and see if you can comprehend it this time.

 

[BigRob]

Are you saying that Trump was not aware of the lack of payment? You really are a Trumpkin:

"Trump and his daughter Ivanka, in an interview with USA TODAY, shrugged off the lawsuits and other claims of non-payment. If a company or worker he hires isn’t paid fully, the Trumps said, it’s because The Trump Organization was unhappy with the work.

“Let’s say that they do a job that’s not good, or a job that they didn’t finish, or a job that was way late. I’ll deduct from their contract, absolutely,” Trump said. “That’s what the country should be doing.”

Without knowing specifics of any of the cases in questions... read the quote above...."Let’s say that they do a job that’s not good, or a job that they didn’t finish, or a job that was way late. I'll deduct that from their contract, absolutely."

If you hired someone to do a job and they did poor work, (i.e. produced a project that was unusable or not up to the agreed standards), didn't finish the job on time or at all, would you pay them full price and that would be that?

I once hired a roofer to replace the roof and we agreed it would be complete by X date. He showed up and dropped off materials and then disappeared. About 3 weeks after our agreed competition date he surfaced and said he could get to it in another week or so. I told him he had 2 days to remove his materials from my property. He told me we "had a contract" and he would see me in court if I didn't let him complete the work. I told him great, be happy to litigate it and I planned to file a countersuit for fraud - since that is really what it was. He picked up his supplies same day.

 

[Old_Trapper70]

Without knowing specifics of any of the cases in questions... read the quote above...."Let’s say that they do a job that’s not good, or a job that they didn’t finish, or a job that was way late. I'll deduct that from their contract, absolutely."

If you hired someone to do a job and they did poor work, (i.e. produced a project that was unusable or not up to the agreed standards), didn't finish the job on time or at all, would you pay them full price and that would be that?

I once hired a roofer to replace the roof and we agreed it would be complete by X date. He showed up and dropped off materials and then disappeared. About 3 weeks after our agreed competition date he surfaced and said he could get to it in another week or so. I told him he had 2 days to remove his materials from my property. He told me we "had a contract" and he would see me in court if I didn't let him complete the work. I told him great, be happy to litigate it and I planned to file a countersuit for fraud - since that is really what it was. He picked up his supplies same day.

Not for him to decide on his own. In Trumps case he waited until after the work was done. No complaints from him, just no payment. Then it is up to the contractor to take him to court, and wait while Trump stalls. The guy is a liar, a coward, and a thief. No person with any form of principles could vote for him.

 

[BigRob]

Not for him to decide on his own. In Trumps case he waited until after the work was done. No complaints from him, just no payment. Then it is up to the contractor to take him to court, and wait while Trump stalls. The guy is a liar, a coward, and a thief. No person with any form of principles could vote for him.

This is what the court system is for. I don't know the full specifics of the cases mentioned, and I'd wager neither do most people. I'm not prepared to condemn anyone over something like this.