What makes me laugh about all this is the fact we are debating whether we have a god or not. Does it matter? Really?
We will live as we see fit.
if we believe in any certain god or gods (and I guess most of the religious world is now monotheistic). does it actually matter. This debate can go on forever and neither side will win. In the real world though, the god sceptic side looks like it will.
All our gods come from pre-science. (ie a time before we understood what was REALLY going on around us.) at that time we needed an explanation of the sun the stars. the weather, diseases and so on.
Now we live in the 21st century. we have nearly discovered the building blocks of life. we have nearly unified the forces that hold this universe together. we have seen beyond the simple points of light we called stars. we have conquered many of the viruses and bacteria that could kill us.
in short, we have, through the years had to rely on a higher being to explain all of this (i don't deny there is one though.) now, with science we are answering our own questions. So there is now less need for a god than ever before. this trend is shown across the world. religion is decreasing!!
But that means nothing really. In my opinion ALL of the religions have piggy-backed earlier religions. Would we have evidence of god in this century (with our digital photography etc) NO. All of the religions stem from a time when we can't prove anything about them (how fitting that is.) There are hundreds of different religions. New ones are beginning to take hold aswell (scientology etc)
But none have proof. They have faith instead.
The whole topic here seems to sway on proof. Well there is none. ID can state reasons why it can't be disproved but it cannot state reasons why it can be proved!
So here is my opinion :
all religions thus far have been formulated by human beings requiring an answer to WHY life is here, WHY the universe is here! (pure speculation that has gained strength in numbers and ended up as a belief system)
take christianity. formulated by constantine and spread through the roman empire by its leader across europe. then with britains monarchy changed and modified and again spread this time to its colonies including america etc)
but the question still remains WHY.
does science have the answer?
No Science never asks why? it asks HOW?
so eventually we may know how life is formed. how the universe is formed? how many universes there are etc
but science will never answer why we are here
why is the universe here
what is the purpose of the quark, the atom, the being, the planet, the star, the galaxy, the universe, the universes!
that is left to our god, (or our absent god) and I don't believe we will ever know the answer because i believe it is unknowable to us.
A god solves all this. (but all too easily)
there may be some omiscient, omnipotent being(s) out there but the knowledge of that is beyond our 3 dimentional minds. we are not equipped to understand such a concept.
AND SO I GO BACK TO THE TOP OF MY THREAD (B4 MY RANT)
I guess I am not as knowledgable as a good many on this topic, but my view is, forget worrying about god (whether your a believer or not). worry more about your
1 ) own life,
2) your immediate family,
3) your fellow human beings,
4) your enviroment,
5) and most importantly your planet.
We only have one planet and we are abusing it (regarldess of whether you belive in global warming or not) and its fellow species. If we all made a declaration to help these five causes then the world would start to heal and we would start to heal regardless of creed, colour, race, religious orientation.
RELIGION MEANS NOTHING. IF ITS TRUE THEN HUMANS WILL CHOOSE THEIR OWN WAY. IF ITS UNTRUE THEN HUMANS WILL CHOOSE THEIR OWN WAY. THINK OF OUR PLANET AND OUR SPECIES AND ALL THE OTHER SPECIES AND LIVE BY THAT. thats all we have and once its gone its gone regardless of whether you believe in god or not
