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I don't think anyone is saying that tottlers are the exact same as animals and no one is denying their are differences (not necessarilly meaning one is better per say or worse but just differences in understanding as well as make-up). However the issue of concent here is still relevent as I do not see how exactly we could be sure here and the differences may even widen it and make it harder. We can go by our feelings and what we feel but that in itself is not always accurate and our perceptions are often innaccurate (especially if clouded by disires). Morover physically I think it would be idfficult if not directly casuing injury to the animal in any case.
I don't think anyone is saying that tottlers are the exact same as animals and no one is denying their are differences (not necessarilly meaning one is better per say or worse but just differences in understanding as well as make-up). However the issue of concent here is still relevent as I do not see how exactly we could be sure here and the differences may even widen it and make it harder.
We can go by our feelings and what we feel but that in itself is not always accurate and our perceptions are often innaccurate (especially if clouded by disires). Morover physically I think it would be idfficult if not directly casuing injury to the animal in any case.
