Is Europe Lost?

[Johnny Tremain]

Before much longer--the next big war will be between European interests and Asian interests.
Make book on it.
Largely over resources, energy, expansionism.

America--will sit this one out, thank you.
Best of luck to all!

 

[Cruella]

Can Europe even defend its self? Or will they expect us to fix it?

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Can Europe even defend its self? Or will they expect us to fix it?

Europe is always the same.
Want to know it's future--study it's past.
It is essentially the Tower of Babel.
Jingoistic--in the extreme.

With a decided weakness for mass murder.
They are pretty well armed.

The curious thing is--for great classical music, the old Austro-Hungarian Empire and Russia--are pretty much the whole thing.

 

[dogtowner]

Can Europe even defend its self? Or will they expect us to fix it?

experience answers that one but it need not be us, China is a possibility.

 

[Cruella]

experience answers that one but it need not be us, China is a possibility.

Not sure I know what you mean. China would come to Europe's rescue? I see China not as a defender but more of a clean-up crew. Kind of like vultures.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Russia is the big player.
Land and resources.
They will never have to work again.
150 million and all that land and incalculable mineral wealth.
Sitting pretty.
Putin--knows this quite well.

 

[dogtowner]

Not sure I know what you mean. China would come to Europe's rescue? I see China not as a defender but more of a clean-up crew. Kind of like vultures.

not a bad place to make a colony. Johnny notes that the real reason it makes sense for China. Vlad would not object to becoming a super tzar.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

not a bad place to make a colony. Johnny notes that the real reason it makes sense for China. Vlad would not object to becoming a super tzar.

Vlad (the Impaler) will have a massive retaliatory Russian strike force capability--China can use easy land routes to fetch the resources--both will work to dismantle America and keep Europe as a plaything and anice place to dine. Everyone will be happy--but the USA and Japan will be there for incense and cameras.

 

[steveox]

Why are we so concerned about the eurpean union problems? Its not our problem..They Created the Euro we didnt. The Euro was a big mistake. It should never been created. So its their problem.We should not help to bail them out. Ever heard the old saying you make ur bed now you sleep in it? Its not our bed though. So they work out that problem not America!

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Why are we so concerned about the eurpean union problems? Its not our problem..They Created the Euro we didnt. The Euro was a big mistake. It should never been created. So its their problem.We should not help to bail them out. Ever heard the old saying you make ur bed now you sleep in it? Its not our bed though. So they work out that problem not America!

Sadly--we are joined at the hip with them--business-wise.

 

[steveox]

Sadly--we are joined at the hip with them--business-wise.

Well Mitt is gonna solve that problem when he gets in the oval office. Hes gonna tell every eupean country its time you learn how to stand on your own two feet

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Well Mitt is gonna solve that problem when he gets in the oval office. Hes gonna tell every eupean country its time you learn how to stand on your own two feet

That may well be correct.
A businessman would handle things in a better way than is now being done--even with the accommodations that must be met for international politics.
Just not getting screwed by everyone--would be a nice start.

 

[Aus22]

Before much longer--the next big war will be between European interests and Asian interests.
Make book on it.
Largely over resources, energy, expansionism.

America--will sit this one out, thank you.
Best of luck to all!

Any war between China and the West will be over Taiwan. Europe and Australia will not go to war if China wants to retake Taiwan. The American inparticular Republicans will go to war on this issue. So the USA will be alone in this war.

 

[Cruella]

Any war between China and the West will be over Taiwan. Europe and Australia will not go to war if China wants to retake Taiwan. The American inparticular Republicans will go to war on this issue. So the USA will be alone in this war.

We are not going to war with China over Taiwan.

 

[steveox]

We are not going to war with China over Taiwan.

If China invades Taiwan you bet ur ass we will get involved. Just like JFK bullied the soviets around on East Germany and Cuba.