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No riding off into the sunset of Afghanistan for Cowboy Sam

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  1. reedak

    reedak Well-Known Member

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    1. Last night in Kabul, the United States ended 20 years of war in Afghanistan. The longest war in American history. We completed one of the biggest airlifts in history with more than 120,000 people evacuated to safety. That number is more than double what most experts thought were possible. No nation, no nation has ever done anything like it in all of history. Only the United States had the capacity and the will and ability to do it, and we did it today.

    The extraordinary success of this mission was due to the incredible skill, bravery and selfless courage of the United States military and our diplomats and intelligence professionals....

    The fundamental obligation of a president, in my opinion, is to defend and protect America. Not against threats of 2001, but against the threats of 2021 and tomorrow. That is the guiding principle behind my decisions about Afghanistan....

    And here is the critical thing to understand: The world is changing. We’re engaged in a serious competition with China. We’re dealing with the challenges on multiple fronts with Russia. We’re confronted with cyberattacks and nuclear proliferation. We have to shore up American competitiveness to meet these new challenges and the competition for the 21st century. And we can do both: fight terrorism, and take on new threats that are here now and will continue to be here in the future. And there’s nothing China or Russia would rather have, would want more in this competition, than the United States to be bogged down another decade in Afghanistan....

    We’ve been a nation too long at war. If you’re 20 years old today, you’ve never known an America at peace...

    Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/31/us/politics/transcript-biden-speech-afghanistan.html

    2. In ancient Rome, an important victory on the battlefield was usually celebrated in a spectacular celebration parade (called the Roman triumph). The triumphal procession entered the city of Rome through the porta triumphalis or the triumphal gate (like the Arc de Triomphe de l’Étoile of France). In the procession were enslaved prisoners of war, marching in chains. Particularly notable enemies, such as the enemy leader, would be made more conspicuous during the procession, usually culminating in the traditional Roman method of death by strangulation at the end of the triumph.

    Despite Biden's claim of “extraordinary success" of withdrawal from Afghanistan, there is no "American triumph" through the streets of Washington, D.C. Some people, however, may point out that a triumphal procession (to "Make America Great Again (MAGA)") is too old-fashioned.

    The modern and American way of celebrating a victory is to ride off into the sunset like a cowboy hero after vanquishing the evildoers, as in the closing scenes of many western films that were so popular from the 1930s. However, Cowboy Sam did not ride off into the sunset of Afghanistan this time. Instead, the world was shown a poignant picture of the very last American soldier to leave the Afghan soil (seen through night vision) as he got on the very last military transport plane that flew out on the final flight at 3:29pm Washington time on Tuesday (31 August 2021), or one minute before midnight in Kabul.

    Shortly after the departure of the last US troops, the Taliban leaders and their followers entered the airport, firing weapons and fireworks into the skies above Kabul and calling it independence day in celebration of their victory over the US occupation forces and allied troops.

    Grimmer still were the pictures showing the transfer of remains ceremony conducted at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware on August 29 when the plane carrying the remains of 13 fallen service members arrived home for their funerals.

    3. Like the Vietnam War, there is absolutely no way for America to get out of the Afghan quagmire with honour and dignity. It is beyond one's comprehension why the White House incumbent walks all the way into his predecessor’s trap so obediently. He and other Democrats should have deplored Trump's disgraceful peace deal with the Taliban as far back as March 2020. Why should the White House incumbent accept the fate of being "locked" into a timeline by his predecessor for troop withdrawal?

    As I have pointed out in an earlier post, the White House incumbent could easily get out of the "terrible situation" by renegotiating with the Taliban to reschedule the troop withdrawal for May 1st 2025. By then, the next president will most likely be a Republican follower or family member of the "Me First" ex-president or even Trump himself!

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    Major General Christopher Donahue, 52, was the last soldier to leave Kabul. He boarded the final U.S. Air Force flight out of Afghanistan, at one minute before midnight on Monday

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    President Joe Biden watches as a Navy carry team moves a transfer case containing the remains of Navy Corpsman Maxton W. Soviak, 22, of Berlin Heights, Ohio, Sunday, Aug. 29, 2021, at Dover Air Force Base, Del. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

    Additional Reference:

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/3570929/afghanistan-last-soldier-taliban-celebrates-us-withdrawal-war/

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...0-year-Army-veteran-final-American-board.html

    https://www.iwebwire.com/politics/b...e-13-us-soldiers-killed-in-the-kabul-bombing/

    https://www.kawc.org/post/biden-looking-remains-13-service-members-killed-kabul-return-home

    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-military-left-behind-millions-of-things-at-key-base-2021-7

    https://time.com/5794643/trumps-disgraceful-peace-deal-taliban/

    https://sevenhillshistory.home.blog/2019/03/01/roman-triumphs/

    https://www.worldhistory.org/Roman_Triumph/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_de_Triomphe

    https://www.houseofpolitics.com/thr...e-in-his-great-game-with-his-successor.20689/

     
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  2. The Scotsman

    The Scotsman Well-Known Member

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    I can't for the life of me figure out why the speech writer wrote this passage in this manner when one puts it into context with the underlying events? The narrative of reality is that the US other than losing a huge amount of lives and an incalculable amount of money have achieved in Afghanistan absolutely nothing.....nothing. All those lives and all those resources wasted for nothing despite the US Military's assurance to the contrary. For future reference then is the ultimate expression of "extraordinary success" to the conclusion of a US military venture to be measured against how many lives they lose and quantity or resources wasted in order to achieve nothing?

    ..just wondered if this is in general or a specific "terrible situation" are you referring to....
     
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  3. reedak

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    Biden said: "The extraordinary success of this mission was due to the incredible skill, bravery and selfless courage of the United States military and our diplomats and intelligence professionals...."

    1. My great friend, the above statement is taken from Biden's speech. In other words, Biden said; and unfortunately I am not the US President, so not Reedak said. :)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/31/us/politics/transcript-biden-speech-afghanistan.html

    2. “Let Biden sit through an interview like this, he’ll be on the ground crying for mommy,” Trump said in an often contentious interview with correspondent Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday.” “He’ll say, ‘Mommy, mommy, please take me home.’”

    https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/trump-calls-biden-incompetent-says-he-d-cry-mommy-mommy

    3. Trump also claimed that Biden is "mentally shot" and "not competent" to lead the US. However, don't despise the White House incumbent. Please don't assume he cannot write his own speech that he needs a speech writer. Even if he needs a speech writer, he will be the final guy to approve the speech. He won't utter a single word if he is not pleased with it.

    https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/c...ot-trump-says-biden-not-competent-to-lead-us/
     
  4. reedak

    reedak Well-Known Member

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    The "terrible situation" refers to the disgraceful and messy retreat of US troops from Afghanistan. It could be compared to waving a white flag to the Taliban. :)

    Whoever tries to withdraw the US troops from Afghanistan (Trump, Biden or anybody else) won't be able to do so with dignity and honour.
     
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