North Korea joins the Nuclear Club

[Stalin]

Fraternal congratulations from all comrades worldwide, to the valiant workers of North Korea who have succeeded in the next phase of the defence of the motherland from Imperialism.

This means that the nation is now less susceptible to the blackmail and paper tiger antics of the weak cowardly United States leadership.

Comrade Stalin of Gori

 

[Hobo1]

Yea, it should be interesting to see how China handles this development. They are really the only one who can put pressure on NK to back off - because without China's help NK would starve tomorrow.

Plus, China is looking to become a new powerhouse in Asia - which will be a lot tougher to do if places like Japan and South Korea threaten to gear up for war in Asia. Whatever happens in North Korea is going to negatively affect China and they don't need at problem after all of the goodwill from the Olympics. China has worked hard to improve their negative image in the region and around the world.

For sure Japan is not going to sit on their hands with North Korea pointing nuclear missiles right at them. And in case anybody has forgotten, Japan has already kicked both China's ass and the Korean's ass several times in the past century. China shouldn't want to waken this sleeping giant.

 

[BigRob]

Fraternal congratulations from all comrades worldwide, to the valiant workers of North Korea who have succeeded in the next phase of the defence of the motherland from Imperialism.

This means that the nation is now less susceptible to the blackmail and paper tiger antics of the weak cowardly United States leadership.

Comrade Stalin of Gori

Uhm, North Korea tested their first weapon a few years ago. They have already been in the "nuclear club."

 

[BigRob]

Yea, it should be interesting to see how China handles this development. They are really the only one who can put pressure on NK to back off - because without China's help NK would starve tomorrow.

Plus, China is looking to become a new powerhouse in Asia - which will be a lot tougher to do if places like Japan and South Korea threaten to gear up for war in Asia. Whatever happens in North Korea is going to negatively affect China and they don't need at problem after all of the goodwill from the Olympics. China has worked hard to improve their negative image in the region and around the world.

For sure Japan is not going to sit on their hands with North Korea pointing nuclear missiles right at them. And in case anybody has forgotten, Japan has already kicked both China's ass and the Korean's ass several times in the past century. China shouldn't want to waken this sleeping giant.

The only thing China has responded to since the first North Korea test was the assertion that Japan would go nuclear as well. This is the leverage that needs to be used with China.

 

[PLC1]

Why is it that no one has assassinated the tin pot dictator, Kim Jung Il, and put an end to his failed big brother state?

 

[Stalin]

Why is it that no one has assassinated the tin pot dictator, Kim Jung Il, and put an end to his failed big brother state?

That is because North Korea is not the United States where secret services kill or discredit politicians who try and stop their illegal wars such as Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan

Comrade Stalin

 

[The Scotsman]

Why is it that no one has assassinated the tin pot dictator, Kim Jung Il, and put an end to his failed big brother state?

This regime is going to implode in the very near future and needs a soft landing back into the real world. You assassinate the SOB, and the surviving Generals find out, then those tin pot freakshows really have a reason to harden their grip. Then it starts to get really interesting because it gives them a reason to start chucking around accusations against those countries they chose to implicate in the plot and further "reason" to maintain their weapons development.

 

[The Scotsman]

That is because North Korea is not the United States where secret services kill or discredit politicians who try and stop their illegal wars such as Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan

Comrade Stalin

yeah right.........trouble is the NK just mass murder their own poeple.......... wake up and smell the coffee sonny..........

 

[BigRob]

Why is it that no one has assassinated the tin pot dictator, Kim Jung Il, and put an end to his failed big brother state?

Because we made it illegal for us to do it, and because China is backing him. Further, no one knows what you will get if you get rid of him.

 

[BigRob]

This regime is going to implode in the very near future and needs a soft landing back into the real world. You assassinate the SOB, and the surviving Generals find out, then those tin pot freakshows really have a reason to harden their grip. Then it starts to get really interesting because it gives them a reason to start chucking around accusations against those countries they chose to implicate in the plot and further "reason" to maintain their weapons development.

People have been predicting regime implosion over there since the early 1990's. Roughly 20 years later they are still here. I would not bank on them simply going away, especially with Chinese backing.

 

[PLC1]

Because we made it illegal for us to do it, and because China is backing him. Further, no one knows what you will get if you get rid of him.

The second part of that post may be correct.

As for the first part, when have we worried about what is "illegal" according to international law?

Just call the assassination "termination of unsatisfactory service", and Kim Jun Il an "batty enemy" and we're home free.

 

[BigRob]

The second part of that post may be correct.

As for the first part, when have we worried about what is "illegal" according to international law?

It is illegal under US domestic law, international law has nothing to do with it.

Just call the assassination "termination of unsatisfactory service", and Kim Jun Il an "batty enemy" and we're home free.

Need Congressional approval first.

 

[PLC1]

It is illegal under US domestic law, international law has nothing to do with it.



Need Congressional approval first.

Nevertheless, just change the words, and it's OK. There is a long and proud history of simply calling it something else, then going ahead.

 

[BigRob]

Nevertheless, just change the words, and it's OK.

Does not work this way under domestic law, and we never did that anyway under International law.

There is a long and proud history of simply calling it something else, then going ahead.

Such as?

 

[PLC1]

Does not work this way under domestic law, and we never did that anyway under International law.



Such as?

If someone sold to our forces can be an "enemy combatant, why can't a third rate dictator like Il be a batty enemy? I'd be willing to bet he's responsible for a lot more death and human misery than any of the enemy combatants we tortured, even the ones who were really guilty.

And, since the torture wasn't really torture but "enhanced interrogation", we could call the assassination an early termination. See? The legal problems are solved by changing a few key words.