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Iraq is improving.  98% of the violence there happens within a 50 mile radius of baghdad and that circle is steadily shrinking.  You may have been satisfied to leave saddam in charge doing illegal business under the table with a few notable members of the security council, being tipped off to the schedule of inspectors, etc., but the fact is, it is getting to be a far better place than it was.  Just ask any little girl who gets to learn to read.


And please, if you will, name for me some actual or proposed changes by liberals that are being well thought out and perhaps slowed down by liberals because of the potential problems that will be caused.


Hell, coyote, look at the liberal solution to healthcare.  It is a blind rush to socialized medicine and damn the easily predicitable consequences.




Military spending is necessary.  You may be able to ignore the dangers in the world, and that is certainly your right.  But you should be glad that conservatives maintain your right to do it.


Corporate subsidies?  You mean tax breaks to corporations?  That is a liberal invention Coyote.  Good old governor weasley uses it heavily here to entice business into NC.  Recently he brought in a computer manufacturer and when all the subsides and goodies were totaled up, the citizens of NC are going to be paying $145,000 a year (each) for 200 jobs that are going to pay about $65,000 a year.


Corporations should not be taxed at all.  When you levy a tax on a corporation, they don't pay it, they simply pass the expense on to the consumer who pays the corporate tax, and the sales tax as well.  As with all liberal plans, it is those who can least afford to get hurt that bear the brunt.




Liberalism requires large, intrusive government.  And bush is a liberal.  His spending on entitlements and poorly thought out educational plans identifies him as such.




Because you wouldn't be convinced, even by overwhelming evidence.  And the definition of conservative (classical liberal) and the political goals of conservativism may be found in the constitution and it did very well in practice for quite a long time.  The further we get from those principles, towards modern liberalism, the worse off we will become.




That turned out to be leftist after all.




Two words Coyote.  Thought police.  The concept is being put in practice right here in the US, right now and it was not put in practice by extremists.  It was implemented and is being enforced by mainstream modern liberals.




I won't argue very vigorously against that.




By destroyong people's cultures and traditions and demanding that they live a certain way as defined by government.  AUTHORATARIANISM!!




The list of ills that came as a result of poorly thought out change is large and growing larger and more severe all the time.




Emotional hand wringing and nothing more coyote.  Women got the right to vote long before modern liberalism ever raised its ugly head.  Ditto for the end of slavery.  Those changes happened under classical liberalism and the ability to send children to school as opposed to work was the result of capitalism creating an economy in which it was no longer necessary, not any idea or policy put in place by modern liberalism.




Exactly what has been happening for the past 3/4 of a century and just look around you at the social ills that are a result.




And you are that much more removed from anything that resembles community and that much closer to the individual looking to government for everything and not realizing that the government simply can't provide for his needs.


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