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I am glad you like France health care system but you are missing the simple fact that I don't think I should be obligated to pay for anyone's health problems but my own and my family. any one who knows me knows i'm a giving person..

I simply do not subscribe to the wonderful utopia that I am my brother's keeper. I am nothing of the kind; I owe no duty to anyone in this regard.

So once you understand that, I say go live with the french or the sweeds who apparently buy into that bullsiht. Or go live in canada. But don't come sneaking over the boarder from your waiting list of elective surgery and show up at a Michigan hospital with abdominal pain for a known 3.5 cm known aortic aneurysm just so you can get a competent and immediate surgery. That is gaming the system.

In this country we do not have a broad based tax system. The brunt of tax is paid by just the top 15% and under obama that goes to 90% of all tax collected. So why should just 15% of the population pay for the healthcare of 85% of the population? Fk that. I am not that generous and I am not that good hearted and more importantly I don't owe my brothers anything.

The whole socialist message and experience is wasted on me since I am the guy that gets stuck paying for it. And why? What earthy notion gives you the idea you can steal from me with impunity. If you tried to break into my house to steal from me, I would disable you beyond human recognition. Yet you think the gov has the natural law right by plurality to vote to steal from me and split the proceeds of the theft. And as long as you garnish the theft with some sort of do gooder idea that healthcare is a right... then you justify a fully immoral act of the theft.

I am here to tell you, the only God given right is to life you have no right to a big screen, or anything else beyond what you earn. You can be lazy and starve to death; I don't care, otherwise you can survive like any other human by your willingness to work for it. But don't come to me telling me I owe you a living, or healthcare; I owe you nothing and that is the only acceptable relationship. IMO of course

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doug

<blockquote data-quote="nobull" data-source="post: 147328" data-attributes="member: 2845">I am glad you like France health care system but you are missing the simple fact that I don&#039;t think I should be obligated to pay for anyone&#039;s health problems but my own and my family. any one who knows me knows i&#039;m a giving person..I simply do not subscribe to the wonderful utopia that I am my brother&#039;s keeper. I am nothing of the kind; I owe no duty to anyone in this regard. So once you understand that, I say go live with the french or the sweeds who apparently buy into that bullsiht. Or go live in canada. But don&#039;t come sneaking over the boarder from your waiting list of elective surgery and show up at a Michigan hospital with abdominal pain for a known 3.5 cm known aortic aneurysm just so you can get a competent and immediate surgery. That is gaming the system. In this country we do not have a broad based tax system. The brunt of tax is paid by just the top 15% and under obama that goes to 90% of all tax collected. So why should just 15% of the population pay for the healthcare of 85% of the population? Fk that. I am not that generous and I am not that good hearted and more importantly I don&#039;t owe my brothers anything. The whole socialist message and experience is wasted on me since I am the guy that gets stuck paying for it. And why? What earthy notion gives you the idea you can steal from me with impunity. If you tried to break into my house to steal from me, I would disable you beyond human recognition. Yet you think the gov has the natural law right by plurality to vote to steal from me and split the proceeds of the theft. And as long as you garnish the theft with some sort of do gooder idea that healthcare is a right... then you justify a fully immoral act of the theft. I am here to tell you, the only God given right is to life you have no right to a big screen, or anything else beyond what you earn. You can be lazy and starve to death; I don&#039;t care, otherwise you can survive like any other human by your willingness to work for it. But don&#039;t come to me telling me I owe you&nbsp; a living, or healthcare; I owe you nothing and that is the only acceptable relationship. IMO of courseregardsdoug</blockquote>

[QUOTE="nobull, post: 147328, member: 2845"] I am glad you like France health care system but you are missing the simple fact that I don't think I should be obligated to pay for anyone's health problems but my own and my family. any one who knows me knows i'm a giving person.. I simply do not subscribe to the wonderful utopia that I am my brother's keeper. I am nothing of the kind; I owe no duty to anyone in this regard. So once you understand that, I say go live with the french or the sweeds who apparently buy into that bullsiht. Or go live in canada. But don't come sneaking over the boarder from your waiting list of elective surgery and show up at a Michigan hospital with abdominal pain for a known 3.5 cm known aortic aneurysm just so you can get a competent and immediate surgery. That is gaming the system. In this country we do not have a broad based tax system. The brunt of tax is paid by just the top 15% and under obama that goes to 90% of all tax collected. So why should just 15% of the population pay for the healthcare of 85% of the population? Fk that. I am not that generous and I am not that good hearted and more importantly I don't owe my brothers anything. The whole socialist message and experience is wasted on me since I am the guy that gets stuck paying for it. And why? What earthy notion gives you the idea you can steal from me with impunity. If you tried to break into my house to steal from me, I would disable you beyond human recognition. Yet you think the gov has the natural law right by plurality to vote to steal from me and split the proceeds of the theft. And as long as you garnish the theft with some sort of do gooder idea that healthcare is a right... then you justify a fully immoral act of the theft. I am here to tell you, the only God given right is to life you have no right to a big screen, or anything else beyond what you earn. You can be lazy and starve to death; I don't care, otherwise you can survive like any other human by your willingness to work for it. But don't come to me telling me I owe you a living, or healthcare; I owe you nothing and that is the only acceptable relationship. IMO of course regards doug [/QUOTE]

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