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I used to think New Jersey was the arm pit of the nation but for the last 10 years or so I think California is for sure. Don't get me wrong, I was born there as were half of the other people in Oregon. You cannot possibly know how bad it is when you live there. You see the decay so gradually that you do not notice it as much as someone from there that goes back to visit every ten years or so.

The last time was 4 years ago and that was just it for me. I never want to go back for any reason.

Mexico wants it back, its of no use to the rest of the United States. Its far too dysfunctional to ever get back on its feet so why not let Mexico have it. Maybe it's the one thing that could get Calif to fix its self

<blockquote data-quote="Pandora" data-source="post: 140944" data-attributes="member: 1040">I used to think New Jersey was the arm pit of the nation but for the last 10 years or so I think California is for sure.&nbsp; Don&#039;t get me wrong, I was born there as were half of the other people in Oregon.&nbsp; You cannot possibly know how bad it is when you live there.&nbsp; You see the decay so gradually that you do not notice it as much as someone from there that goes back to visit every ten years or so.The last time was 4 years ago and that was just it for me.&nbsp; I never want to go back for any reason.Mexico wants it back, its of no use to the rest of the United States.&nbsp; Its far too dysfunctional to ever get back on its feet so why not let Mexico have it.&nbsp; Maybe it&#039;s the one thing that could get Calif to fix its self <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pandora, post: 140944, member: 1040"] I used to think New Jersey was the arm pit of the nation but for the last 10 years or so I think California is for sure. Don't get me wrong, I was born there as were half of the other people in Oregon. You cannot possibly know how bad it is when you live there. You see the decay so gradually that you do not notice it as much as someone from there that goes back to visit every ten years or so. The last time was 4 years ago and that was just it for me. I never want to go back for any reason. Mexico wants it back, its of no use to the rest of the United States. Its far too dysfunctional to ever get back on its feet so why not let Mexico have it. Maybe it's the one thing that could get Calif to fix its self :) [/QUOTE]

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