"Settled Science"??

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I repeat: I’m not a global warming believer. I’m not a global warming denier. I’ve long believed that it cannot be good for humanity to be spewing tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. I also believe that those scientists who pretend to know exactly what this will cause in 20, 30 or 50 years are white-coated propagandists.

“The debate is settled,” asserted propagandist in chief Barack Obama in his latest State of the Union address. “Climate change is a fact.” Really? There is nothing more anti-scientific than the very idea that science is settled, static, impervious to challenge. Take a non-climate example. It was long assumed that mammograms help reduce breast cancer deaths. This fact was so settled that Obamacare requires every insurance plan to offer mammograms (for free, no less) or be subject to termination.

Now we learn from a massive randomized study — 90,000 women followed for 25 years — that mammograms may have no effect on breast cancer deaths. Indeed, one out of five of those diagnosed by mammogram receives unnecessary radiation, chemo or surgery.

So much for settledness. And climate is less well understood than breast cancer. If climate science is settled, why do its predictions keep changing? And how is it that the great physicist Freeman Dyson, who did some climate research in the late 1970s, thinks today’s climate-change Cassandras are hopelessly mistaken?

They deal with the fluid dynamics of the atmosphere and oceans, argues Dyson, ignoring the effect of biology, i.e., vegetation and topsoil. Further, their predictions rest on models they fall in love with: “You sit in front of a computer screen for 10 years and you start to think of your model as being real.” Not surprisingly, these models have been “consistently and spectacularly wrong” in their predictions, write atmospheric scientists Richard McNider and John Christy — and always, amazingly, in the same direction.

Settled? Even Britain’s national weather service concedes there’s been no change — delicately called a “pause” — in global temperature in 15 years. If even the raw data is recalcitrant, let alone the assumptions and underlying models, how settled is the science?

But even worse than the pretense of settledness is the cynical attribution of any politically convenient natural disaster to climate change, a clever term that allows you to attribute anything — warming and cooling, drought and flood — to man’s sinful carbon burning.

Accordingly, Obama ostentatiously visited drought-stricken California last Friday. Surprise! He blamed climate change. Here even the New York Times gagged, pointing out that far from being supported by the evidence, “the most recent computer projections suggest that as the world warms, California should get wetter, not drier, in the winter.”

How inconvenient. But we’ve been here before. Hurricane Sandy was made the poster child for the alleged increased frequency and strength of “extreme weather events” like hurricanes.

Nonsense. Sandy wasn’t even a hurricane when it hit the United States. Indeed, in all of 2012, only a single hurricane made U.S. landfall . And 2013 saw the fewest Atlantic hurricanes in 30 years. In fact, in the last half-century, one-third fewer major hurricanes have hit the United States than in the previous half-century.

Similarly tornadoes. Every time one hits, the climate-change commentary begins. Yet last year saw the fewest in a quarter-century. And the last 30 years — of presumed global warming — has seen a 30 percent decrease in extreme tornado activity (F3 and above) versus the previous 30 years.

None of this is dispositive. It doesn’t settle the issue. But that’s the point. It mocks the very notion of settled science, which is nothing but a crude attempt to silence critics and delegitimize debate. As does the term “denier” — an echo of Holocaust denial, contemptibly suggesting the malevolent rejection of an established historical truth.

Climate-change proponents have made their cause a matter of fealty and faith. For folks who pretend to be brave carriers of the scientific ethic, there’s more than a tinge of religion in their jeremiads. If you whore after other gods, the Bible tells us, “the Lord’s wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit” (Deuteronomy 11).

Sounds like California. Except that today there’s a new god, the Earth Mother. And a new set of sins — burning coal and driving a fully equipped F-150.

But whoring is whoring, and the gods must be appeased. So if California burns, you send your high priest (in carbon -belching Air Force One, but never mind) to the bone-dry land to offer up, on behalf of the repentant congregation, a $1 billion burnt offering called a “climate resilience fund.”

Ah, settled science in action.
 
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When 97% of engineers are paid to say the bridge is unsafe ... what else would you expect?

lets see so you think that the money is in saying its real...not in all the oil companies, car companies, and other industries who stand to lose of we put real caps on pollution? And you think the 3 percent your listening to are not paid? But yes, you should see the huge money those Climate Scientist are making...Billionairs all of them you know.

You know scientist that are paid also say the earth is round...must be a conspiracy...
 
lets see so you think that the money is in saying its real...not in all the oil companies, car companies, and other industries who stand to lose of we put real caps on pollution? And you think the 3 percent your listening to are not paid? But yes, you should see the huge money those Climate Scientist are making...Billionairs all of them you know.

You know scientist that are paid also say the earth is round...must be a conspiracy...

Interesting that I just watched an interview of Patrick Moore, one of the founders of Greenpeace, who claims that the supposition that global warming is caused by humans to be 'close to ludicrous', tells us that the warming trend has been going on for 250 years, but that current scientists only look at the past 100 years cuz that supports their flawed hypothesis, and then goes on to say that the driving factors behind the current hysteria are: 1) politicians who are looking for a cause 2) universities who are looking for grants, 3) scientists who are looking for money, and 4) media who are looking for a cause celebre' to drive sales.
 
well if you found one guy....
also funny if that same guy said it was real, you would have ignored him.
I guess that beats, the EU Studies, the UN studies, the White House Studies ( under W even ) NSA, and every Climate scientist, and evry major study for 30 years. You know because you heard from a guy...

but you know he went to school for Ecololgy, so clearly he knows more then people whos job it is to study CLIMATE
 
Also since you want to play the , he is paid to say game
Lets see...He works for Nuclear power lobby, Logging Companies, the Vinyl Institute ( who he backed for there use of PVC's) . He has stated global warming is good because it would create more land, is fine with clearcutting forests, and thinks the amazon rainforest is doing fine..

He also blames solar activity for global warming, says it would be good for the earth though because it will have more arible land, and thinks that cutting down forests, helps create more trees....His books have been called pseudoscience.

the guy makes a hell of a lot more money defending the industries, then most Climate Scientist will ever make in a lifetime. He lost his seat in greenpeace, and went on to failed business...before being a lobbyist for industry.
 
yes, and 97% of all cimate scientest are in on it, along with the Bush White house, the UN, the EU, NASA, and evry science group on earth...only Exon tells the truth. Next they will keep with this flat earth thin, and the sun goes around the earth.
97% were on board. been quite some time since that survey. And they were jot all climate scientists (or scientists for that matter). Explains why none of them questioned the raft of unscientific aspects of ole Phil's study.
 
yes, and 97% of all cimate scientest are in on it, along with the Bush White house, the UN, the EU, NASA, and evry science group on earth...only Exon tells the truth. Next they will keep with this flat earth thin, and the sun goes around the earth.

Since the science is settled, and 97% of scientists are on board, perhaps you can provide some evidence that the so called greenhouse effect has ever been measured and quantified...never mind about proving that humans are responsible for warming, just proof that the so called greenhouse effect has actually been measured and quantified. The existence of the so called greenhouse effect, after all, is the basis for the entire AGW hypothesis..
 
Since the science is settled, and 97% of scientists are on board, perhaps you can provide some evidence that the so called greenhouse effect has ever been measured and quantified...never mind about proving that humans are responsible for warming, just proof that the so called greenhouse effect has actually been measured and quantified. The existence of the so called greenhouse effect, after all, is the basis for the entire AGW hypothesis..
Facts be damned ....

Propaganda is King!
 
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Facts be damned ....

Propaganda is King!

And misinformation is queen, and data tampering is the court jester.

The very nature of science is skepticism. Real science is all about questioning everything and constantly examining hypotheses....and in real science, as soon as a hypothesis fails one test or prediction, it is tossed out and real science goes back to the drawing board to try to find out what is really going on. The list of predictions and tests the greenhouse/agw hypothesis have failed is as long as michael jordan's leg...beginning with the fact that there has been no warming for damned near 20 years now in spite of steadily increasing atmospheric CO2.

Alarmists approach the issue from the position of religious zealots. They have faith and no amount of observed data contradicting their belief will convince them otherwise. Want proof of that statement? Ask a climate alarmist what would falsify the AGW hypothesis for them? Ask pocket full of shells above what would falsify the hypothesis. You won't get an answer because it might happen and they can't conceive of giving up their faith. And in accordance with the tactics of religious zealots the world over and throughout time, those who question the faith are labeled with derogatory names and every attempt is made to silence or marginalize them.
 
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