The whole basis of the discussion is YOU advocating torture and denigrating me for thinking that it is a bad idea. I have posted many times on many threads that I think abortion is murder. But so what? All kinds of things done in this culture are murder in my opinion: eating flesh, hunting, fishing, torture, war, etc.
It would be good to remember that life can be simple if a person is stupid too, and tries to reduce everything down to black and white. Sometimes intellect can expose nuances not visible to the less gifted.
We were discussing if it was a good idea, I didn't start the thread. I think it's a terrible thing to do, I don't like abortions either, consequently I don't do either one. You on the other hand, revel in one and rail against the other, at least I'm consistent.
That was a personal attack? Sorry, I hadn't noticed. Would someone who tears babies apart be considered as "mean as Hell" by you? If so, then perhaps it isn't unreasonable to think that a person who advocates tearing full-grown adults apart might also be considered "mean as Hell".
I don't know, Pale, but "...convoluted, hypocritical, self righteous..." seems just as derogatory as "mean as Hell" to me. You are pretty good fun. 
