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They are dying around the world, silly, not in this country, but our policies contribute to those deaths.  Now, are those good deaths or not since they take place "over there"? (I have to laught :D because you keep calling me a liar when you don't understand what I post.:D )



Our country's policies contriubte to those deaths--do you vote? 



I am suggesting that you are a hypocrite for demanding a right for yourself that you would deny to others, that you are demanding that others solve a problem that YOU are unhappy about, and you top off that hypocrisy by not voluteering to do one of the most important jobs there is for anyone who wants to end abortions: adopt a child so that it doesn't get aborted.  But you don't want to do that, instead you want to pass laws and force other people to do what you don't want to do.  Nice attitude, but very ordinary--common even.:rolleyes:



Sovereignty over one's own body.  Is that too complex an concept for you? Read my post to Armchair.



See response above please.:)



Try to calm down, for a man who thinks it's okay to tear people apart under torture you really get into a swivet about babies.  I understand your point, babies are innocent and cute and harmless and our culture doesn't value them to speak of--it's too bad, but like you say there are injustices in the world.  One of those injustices is that men can't get pregnant, another one of them is that ego maniac men want to force women to behave the way the men think they should.  I'm sorry Pale, but I come down on the side of a woman having sovereignty over her body just like you have over yours.  Another one of the injustices in the world is that women who want to abort their babies will find a way to do so unless you can pass a law to require them to be locked into farrowing cages from conception until birth.  Once a baby is viable outside its Mother's body it should be considered a legal person and accorded full rights (until such time as we discover that it is gay and then we can restrict its rights once again), but until then I have to grant women the right to own their bodies.


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