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I have seen him win a number of debates, some of which his opponents concede defeat. But whether or not he "wins" isn't as important as the fact that he always engages in head-on debates with a thoughtful intelligence which is a far cry from the way you and your butt-buddy Roker snipe with insults from the sidelines.


And I'm not just saying this because I agree with palerider's politics. Mare Tranquility, vyo, Coyote (sometimes), Lilly (back when she was here) and many others -- people who I do not always agree with -- carry themselves in a similar manner and I respect that.


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