Should we be allow to celebrate Christmas

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This time of the year I missed being in the Philippines at Christmas. In the Philippines the first C481742_568359063180641_2139385257_n.jpg hristmas carol is heard around September . By October, the joyful strains of Christmas carols is heard on the radio. Decorations, cribs, trees, stars and colourful and locally made wreaths appear oin the shops in the main street.
Liturgical preparations begin with the lighting of candles and the blessing of the Advent wreath. By December groups of carollers go from house to house and people go to church sometimes at 3 AM.

In Australia by contrast we only hear of Christmas in December usually when stores start their sales.
There is no mention of Christ, we do not mention Christmas just Happy something. Father Christmas is available in the stores for kids to have his phot taken with them.

The few who go to Church, see a half empty Church where we can not even light candles as the wax might damage the carpeted floors. Carol services are only he;d by the Churches. Even sending Christmas cards is dangerous as many do not want them or any obligation to reply. Christmas decorations are scarce confined to one area and dominated by Father Christmas.
Even in the USA, Christmas Celebrations are being ban. Last month a US Judge denied a Christian group's bid to display sa nativity scene in a Los Angeles park after complaints by atheists,
I know not all Denominations want nativity scenes but in Australia even carol singing is ban in schools. People can not say Happy Christmas just Happy Holidays or worst.
 
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the non believing world can go on with their lives but this in no way justifies interfering with the rights of the believing world to go on with theirs.

I will assume that the non believers go to work on 12/25 and are so very productive sans the distractions of the others.
 
Fuck me

Christians have been imposing their shit on the world for hundreds of years and burning people to death for not following it as instructed

They hijacked the pagan ceremony of Xmas and now they are losing it to commercialism

Jesus christ was not born on the 25th dec

Even believers accept that

And intelligent people know that the JC of the bible did not get born at all

So Christians should go to work on 25/12 and try to figure out when a JC was actually born

And if Xmas started in September it would be even more nauseating than it is

Australia is a better educated nation than the Philippines which is a very poor and largely backward nation that had roman Catholicism forced on it by the Spanish. As the Philippines gets more education it will get less religious.

Like all countries do
 
This time of the year I missed being in the Philippines at Christmas. In the Philippines the first CView attachment 329 hristmas carol is heard around September . By October, the joyful strains of Christmas carols is heard on the radio. Decorations, cribs, trees, stars and colourful and locally made wreaths appear oin the shops in the main street.
Liturgical preparations begin with the lighting of candles and the blessing of the Advent wreath. By December groups of carollers go from house to house and people go to church sometimes at 3 AM.

In Australia by contrast we only hear of Christmas in December usually when stores start their sales.
There is no mention of Christ, we do not mention Christmas just Happy something. Father Christmas is available in the stores for kids to have his phot taken with them.

The few who go to Church, see a half empty Church where we can not even light candles as the wax might damage the carpeted floors. Carol services are only he;d by the Churches. Even sending Christmas cards is dangerous as many do not want them or any obligation to reply. Christmas decorations are scarce confined to one area and dominated by Father Christmas.
Even in the USA, Christmas Celebrations are being ban. Last month a US Judge denied a Christian group's bid to display sa nativity scene in a Los Angeles park after complaints by atheists,
I know not all Denominations want nativity scenes but in Australia even carol singing is ban in schools. People can not say Happy Christmas just Happy Holidays or worst.
But I thought you liked socialism? Got to take the good with the bad there buddy!
 
But I thought you liked socialism? Got to take the good with the bad there buddy!
There are many Christians who support Socialism. At least we do not have rules banning religious display in public areas like you apparently have in the USA.., We even have a Nativity scene in our City Square.
 
There are many Christians who support Socialism. At least we do not have rules banning religious display in public areas like you apparently have in the USA.., We even have a Nativity scene in our City Square.
American socialism seems to be joined at the hip with anti christian thoughs here... In the end its the governments boot on your throat, if you dont mind it in some areas you should not mind it in others.
 
Pandra , I am against any government interfering with people's rights.
 

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I am with what Dog said....
Dogtower and Pandora. Govt control is not the core of socialism. Helping the poor to get their fair share of wealth is. In that sense many would say Jesus was a socialist. The Labor party in Australia was founded by Catholics. The Labour Party of England was founded by Methodist.
 
Dogtower and Pandora. Govt control is not the core of socialism. Helping the poor to get their fair share of wealth is. In that sense many would say Jesus was a socialist. The Labor party in Australia was founded by Catholics. The Labour Party of England was founded by Methodist.
Jesus was never a socialist. He never forced anyone to give anything to another. He compelled us to want to give not force us. That is the big difference. Socialist Government forces you to give up what they deem is someone else's fair share of your hard work. You accept socialism so you shouldn't complain when aspects of it don’t agree with you.

I reject socialism, so I will not want even the parts that tend to agree with me, if there ever was any that is.
 
Dogtower and Pandora. Govt control is not the core of socialism. Helping the poor to get their fair share of wealth is. In that sense many would say Jesus was a socialist. The Labor party in Australia was founded by Catholics. The Labour Party of England was founded by Methodist.

the method for govt to "help the poor get their fair share of wealth" is seizing wealth from those who earned it and give it to thos who did not. if they are poor, they settled for that share, it was not withheld from them.

for vthe many who suggest Jesus was a socialist I would ask that they show us where exactly Jesus stated it was the job of government to be their brother's keeper.
 
Of course, the rich all got their wealth by fair means didn't they?

And the poor are just feckless and lazy aren't they?

The two statements above are the lies that get idiots supporting right wing politics
 
the method for govt to "help the poor get their fair share of wealth" is seizing wealth from those who earned it and give it to thos who did not. if they are poor, they settled for that share, it was not withheld from them.

for vthe many who suggest Jesus was a socialist I would ask that they show us where exactly Jesus stated it was the job of government to be their brother's keeper.
Jesus said to give to Ceaser what is his. So he supports some government taxation.
To get backk to the subject here are more photoes of Filipino celebrations of Christmas.This is a street display in Manila.
 

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Jesus said to give to Ceaser what is his. So he supports some government taxation.
To get backk to the subject here are more photoes of Filipino celebrations of Christmas.This is a street display in Manila.

yes he did and was right to do so. he called upon the flock to be charitable as it was not the business of the government to be that.

it is heartening to see Christians elsewhere being free to practice their faith freely as we are supposed to be able to do here.
 
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