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In what way? What are the repercussions? The pundits and politicians are not talking about any negatives befalling our nation as a result... the politcians are pushing for TRILLIONS more in NEW spending - to SPEND our way out of a recession..... Both sides think this is a good idea - the point of my OP - yet you want to scapegoat Republicans? You want to make fun of Conservatives and their goals? Does that make you feel better? I hope you derive some enjoyment from it, because it certainly does NOTHING to address the problem I broached, it doesn't pay down the debt one single dime, it doesn't change the fact that we ARE a Welfare State, and there is no "Change" in sight.


We're in a bus, heading toward a cliff... and everyone thinks if we just shift into high gear, put the peddle to the floor, and have "Hope", the bus will magically fly - rather than crash when we go over the edge.


 "Republicans are worse!" what kind of reasoning is that? Its not reasoning at all... thats the kind of "wisdom" I expect from bazooka Joe wrappers and cracker jack boxes... I would expect such a "pearl of wisdom" from Shaman but expect more of you....


How about you be realistic with your replies and address my concerns? Are you happy we are a welfare state? Do you want to see the welfare "nanny" state continue to grow and gobble up your rights in trade for a coddled life? In another thread you rail about giving up our liberties for physical security... yet you don't equally see how letting government grow to the point where it can take care of you from cradle to grave erodes our liberties?


Neither side is going to "Fix" our debt problem, the debt will grow every year - as it always has - until it crushes our nation. You say it does matter... but you leave it at that... afraid to really think about it and give it serious thought? WHERE do you draw the line, at what point will you say - "that it! No more of this!"?


"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Jefferson 


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