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Ted Cruz A True American Patriot

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  1. Texas_tea

    Texas_tea Well-Known Member

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    As of this morning, Ted Cruz is still going strong, filibustering against funding Obamacare. Isn't it interesting that it comes down to one man standing up for the future of this Great Nation.

    God Bless Ted Cruz and his efforts to save the future of America for us and our children!
     
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    I understand he has had some.help (Rubio and maybe others). But also that this usnt so muvh a fillibuster as an attention getter and dovetails into disallowing reid from reinserting obamacare gunding into the jouse bill. But it is good to see representatives representing for a change.
     
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    I Agree with Harry Reid for once. It was a big waste of time. What Ted Cruz did was copied from a scene Jimmy Stewart did in Hollywood 60 years ago


    Theres a difference between Hollywood and real life. Americans don't live in the movies. In that scene " Mr Smith goes to Washington" When he spoke all day politicans and the people all came together the Audience say ooohhhh wow! In real life what Mr Cruz did was turn everybody off and Democrats and the American people don't give a rats ass what he said.
     
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    Texas_tea Well-Known Member

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    steve there is a clear difference between Hollywood and what Sen Cruz did with his fillabuster I am not surprised you are having difficulty discerning the two
     
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    steveox Well-Known Member

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    Im Not. We don't live here
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    We Live here
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    In Reality. SOLVE THIS PROBLEM!
     
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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    Dteve im glad you gave chosen to realize the movies are the movies. Too mny times have you offered up movie clips as examples. But there are parallels between mr smith and mr cruz. Both are standing up for principle in the hope that others might do the same. Sadly the nature of fillibustering has been diluted to a shadow of its self but it does still serve to rouse. Also fillibustering began long before jimmy stewart.
     
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    I know filibusters were here before jimmy stewart. Its the Democrats who do the most filibusters. When ever Republicans control senate or the house and the left doesn't like it they filibuster. Texas liberals just like that they leave the state and cross into Oklahoma. And then conservatives cant vote on Texas state bills because the rules say you must have both parties present before you can vote.
     
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    Fillibusters are prettypopular with both parties.
     
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    I thought filibusterers were just in Hollywood .... ;)
     
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    They are if they make a movie about it
     
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    The difference between "Mr. Smith", and Cruz, is that "Mr. Smith" was actually concerned about the country, and the people, not this shell game legislators are playing today. If Cruz was concerned about the people he could have filibustered the following:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/unemployment-rich-poor-gap-96845.html

    WASHINGTON — The gap in employment rates between America's highest- and lowest-income families has stretched to its widest levels since officials began tracking the data a decade ago, according to an analysis of government data conducted for The Associated Press.

    Rates of unemployment for the lowest-income families — those earning less than $20,000 — have topped 21 percent, nearly matching the rate for all workers during the 1930s Great Depression.

    U.S. households with income of more than $150,000 a year have an unemployment rate of 3.2 percent, a level traditionally defined as full employment. At the same time, middle-income workers are increasingly pushed into lower-wage jobs. Many of them in turn are displacing lower-skilled, low-income workers, who become unemployed or are forced to work fewer hours, the analysis shows.

    "This was no 'equal opportunity' recession or an 'equal opportunity' recovery," said Andrew Sum, director of the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University. "One part of America is in depression, while another part is in full employment."

    http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=10711

    Since the early '80s, recoveries have become progressively unequal. During the '90s expansion, 45 percent of income gains went to the top 1 percent. During the Bush economy, the top 1 percent increased their income share to 65 percent. And in the current recovery, the top 1 percent have managed to capture the entirety of income growth.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/95-o...the-top-1-heres-what-that-really-means-2013-9

    http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~saez/saez-UStopincomes-2012.pdf

    Striking it Richer: The Evolution of Top Incomes in the United States (Updated with 2012 preliminaryestimates) Emmanuel Saez, UC Berkeley September 3,2013

    What’s new for recent years? 2009-2012: Uneven recovery from the Great Recession

    From 2009 to 2012, average real income per family grew modestly by 6.0% (Table 1). Most of the gains happened in the last year when average incomes grew by 4.6% from 2011 to 2012.

    However, the gains were very uneven. Top 1% incomes grew by 31.4% while bottom 99% incomes grew only by 0.4% from 2009 to 2012.

    Hence, the top 1% captured 95% of the income gains in the first three years of the recovery. From 2009 to 2010, top 1% grew fast and then stagnated
    from 2010 to 2011. Bottom 99% stagnated both from 2009 to 2010 and from 2010 to 2011. In 2012, top 1% incomes increased sharply by 19.6% while bottom 99% incomes grew only by 1.0%. In sum, top 1% incomes are close to full recovery while bottom 99% incomes have hardly started to recover.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2011/09/16/the-top-5-grabbed-most-of-the-americas-gains/

    A new chart from the Economic Policy Institute, using data from NYU Economist Ed Wolff, shows that more than 80% of the nation’s wealth gains between 1983 and 2009 went to the wealthiest top 5%. The top 1% gained 40% of the nation’s total wealth gain, while the next 4% gained 41.5%.

    The share of wealth held by the bottom 60% dropped 7.5%.

    Put another way, the top 1% gained an average of $4.5 million per household, while the next richest 4% gained $1.2 million.

    http://www.epi.org/publication/the-ceo-to-worker-compensation-ratio-in-2012-of-273/

    The CEO-to-Worker Compensation Ratio in 2012 of 273 Was Far Above That of the Late 1990s and 14 Times the Ratio of 20.1 in 1965

    http://blog.heritage.org/2013/05/29/the-rich-and-famous-at-the-farm-bill-trough/

    These examples are not exceptions but the norm. The USDA’s Economic Research Service reports that two-thirds of the farms with income exceeding $1 million annually received government payments averaging $54,745 in 2011. Meanwhile, just 27 percent of farms with income of less than $100,000 received payments—averaging just $4,420 in 2011.

    The top recipient of subsidies in the EWG data base is Riceland Foods, Inc., self-described as “the world’s largest miller and marketer of rice.” It collected $554,343,039 between 1995 and 2012. According to news reports, Riceland reported sales of $1.16 billion during 2011–2012, the fifth consecutive year of billion-plus revenues for the company.

    Members of Congress and their families routinely collect subsidies as well. For example, Lynda L. Lucas, the wife of House Agriculture Committee chairman Frank Lucas (R–OK), collected $40,613 in payments for their farm in Roger Mills County, Oklahoma. (Lucas has served on the Agriculture Committee since he was first elected in 1994. He became chairman in 2011. Lynda Lucas has received four payments between 1999 and 2003, a fifth in 2007, a sixth in 2011, and a seventh in 2012.)

    Likewise, the Iowa family farm of Senator Charles Grassley (R–IA) has collected $955,192 in taxpayer subsidies from 1995 through 2012. (Grassley served on the Agriculture Committee since 1992. The Grassley farm has received payments each year from 1995 to 2012, according to the EWG.)

    The payments have proved irresistible even to environmental groups that openly criticize the impact of subsidies on land use. For example, the Nature Conservancy accumulated a whopping $4,795,786 from 1995 through 2012 despite its own findings that such payments promote the conversion of natural habitat to cropland—threatening wildlife in the process. The National Audubon Society collected $932,801 from 1995 through 2012, according to the EWG
     
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    Yeah...Obama and the Ds have and are doing so much to rectify income inequality.:confused::rolleyes::ROFLMAO:
     
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    More so then the Repugnant ones, yet not enough. Said a long time ago that Obama is a corporatist like Bush, and many others before him. Sadly, it is a war between the two parties, and the people are the ones losing.
     
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    There is NO WAR between the two parties. The two parties are not unlike each other. They are only interested in enriching and obtaining power for themselves and the central government. They are both first and foremost STATISTS and to a lesser degree, progressives.

    They do need people like you who believe in differences between them. The Ds and their allies in the media and g-schools demonize the Rs and you accept this demonization and foment it. This hatred of one party or the other by brainwashed Americans like you, only lead to American disunity, allowing the parties to continue their fraud and corruption.

    As proof of their commonality, look at what the national R party and some in the conservative media are doing to the Tea Party and those VERY FEE Rs who believe in limited government. The R party has done it's best to marginalize and condemn people like Cruz, Rand and Ron Paul, Palin, Amash, and the few others. Another good proof that the parties are alike, are the actions of W and Big Ears. Even you agree they have many similarities.

    So, this so called 'war between the parties' is propaganda designed to fool Americans.
     
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    Jimmy Stewart wwas reciting a screenplay script. Cruz believes obamacare to be harmful to the country as do most Americans.
     
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